Interview re Ralph Antonio Porco as D.B. Cooper suspect
Transcribed 2 October 1990
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Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-106:136-139 Document: FD-302 interview re Ralph Antonio Porco as D.B. Cooper suspect Id: Cooper-Part-106:136-139 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-106%3A136-139 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 106 pp. 136–139 (DB Cooper-48427–48430), FD-302 interview, transcribed 2 Oct 1990, serial 164A-SE-81 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-106%3A136-139
FD-302 (REV. 3-10-82)
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date of transcription 10/2/90
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[REDACTED] Date of Birth, [REDACTED] [REDACTED] Colorado, was advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the purpose of the interview, which was to obtain information concerning her telephone call to the Denver FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (FBI) Office on July 10, 1990. In this call, [REDACTED] [REDACTED] she has known him that he is the individual known as D.B. COOPER who allegedly committed a hijacking many years ago.
[REDACTED] advised that [REDACTED] RALPH ANTONIO PORCO, JR.; Date of Birth, February 14, 1943, in [REDACTED]. His real name, BUFORD ADRIEN ALCORN, was changed when he was adopted as a young child and, to [REDACTED] knowledge, he has always used the name RALPH PORCO. She related that RALPH has claimed to be D.B. COOPER since [REDACTED]. He is currently incarcerated in the FREMONT COUNTY JAIL for Attempted Kidnaping and Burglary, with a one-half million dollar bond. He also has pending charges of [REDACTED]
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[REDACTED] She advised she is coming forward with the information on his D.B. COOPER identity now because she wants him to get everything he has coming to him and hopes he will remain locked up. She further explained that [REDACTED]
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[REDACTED] stated that RALPH told her he used the name D.B. COOPER at the time of the hijacking because his nickname in the SPECIAL FORCES was "DIRTY BASTARD COOPER", and he wanted to let his buddies know it was him. He acquired this nickname because of his practical jokes in the SPECIAL FORCES, such as placing small bombs under toilets. RALPH told her the bomb used in the hijacking was Play-Doh rigged to a clock and in no way could have been detonated.
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[REDACTED] related that in [REDACTED] RALPH never swayed in his story of the hijacking and was almost obsessed with this identity. To her knowledge, RALPH's mother, a friend, and [REDACTED] were the only other people who knew about RALPH's identity. It would anger RALPH when his mother ever made reference to it, but generally he found a lot of pleasure in bragging about it. Shortly before he went to jail, RALPH had been for months
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8/6/90 [REDACTED] CO 164A-SE-81-[guess: 4098] Investigation on __________ at __________ File # __________
SA [REDACTED] tmp 8/7/90 by _________ [REDACTED] Date dictated __________
This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. DB COOPER-48427
FD-303a (Rev. 11-15-83)
164A-SE-81
Continuation of FD-302 of [REDACTED] , On 8/6/90 , Page 2
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working with [REDACTED] practicing jumps and exercising in order to get in good shape to perform another hijacking. RALPH had always been disappointed that the money was lost in the first hijacking when he hit the airplane wing and the bags were torn. He had planned to get it right the second time.
RALPH often commented that since there was no evidence from the hijacking, he would always get away with it, but that [REDACTED] dead. When the movie about the hijacking was on television several months ago, RALPH told [REDACTED] as he was going to be out of town. He wanted to watch it "to see how close they would come to how it really happened." The video recorder malfunctioned, however, and [REDACTED] which angered him.
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[REDACTED] further stated that there was a song which mentioned D.B. COOPER, by an artist she could not recall, that RALPH [REDACTED] Whenever it came on the radio,
RALPH had told her that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] in order to avoid drawing attention. He planned to use [REDACTED]
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[REDACTED] stated that after RALPH was jailed, [REDACTED] and one of [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] [REDACTED] that RALPH used in the hijacking, along with all of his pictures and personal papers from his time in the Army. To her knowledge, this property is at RALPH's mother's house, along with other pictures and mementos from his time in the service. The only photograph of RALPH that [REDACTED] could provide was one taken when he was a COLORADO DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS officer in 1974.
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DB COOPER-48428
FD-302a (Rev. 11-15-83)
164A-SE-81
Continuation of FD-302 of [REDACTED] , On 8/6/90 , Page 3
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During the [REDACTED] RALPH, he was unemployed, and [REDACTED] He always seemed to have money though, which she believed he got from his mother. She did not know RALPH to use drugs, although he commented on several occasions that he could make a lot of money selling drugs if he wanted to.
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[REDACTED] believes RALPH is truthful about his identity as D.B. COOPER because: (1) he is entirely capable, (2) he lived this consistent, unwavering identity for [REDACTED] (3) he claimed to be a master paratrooper in the SPECIAL FORCES, (4) this is the only story or claim of this sort that she witnessed, (5) his story closely matched the details presented in the movie.
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[REDACTED] further described RALPH as vindictive, extremely manipulative and a persistent schemer, always trying to rip people off. He [REDACTED] [REDACTED] while [REDACTED] He was a patient at the COLORADO STATE HOSPITAL for approximately one and one-half years, following [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and has been suicidal, writing suicide notes periodically, and attempting suicide as recently as a couple months ago. He allegedly [REDACTED] also, however, was not charged by reason of insanity, and was subsequently admitted to the State Hospital. [REDACTED] further stated that RALPH was involved in pornography, which she was not aware of until recently. This matter is being investigated by the FREMONT COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, and this double life is another reason [REDACTED] believes RALPH capable of the hijacking incident and the D.B. COOPER identity.
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DB COOPER-48429
FD-302a (Rev. 11-15-83)
164A-SE-81
Continuation of FD-302 of [REDACTED] , On 8/6/90 , Page 4 b6 b7C b7D
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RALPH PORCO is described as follows:
Date of Birth: February 14, 1943 Height: 5'11" Weight: 175 Eyes: Hazel Hair: Brown Social Security Account Number: 041-34-0278
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DB COOPER-48430
Serials: 164A-SE-81, 164A-SE-81-4098