Seattle to Director, New York and Los Angeles requesting authority to interview Karl Fleming
Document date 23 April 1972
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 109 pp. 40–46 (DB Cooper-49497–49503), Teletype, dated 23 Apr 1972 — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-109%3A040-046
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TO DIRECTOR, FBI SAC, NEW YORK SAC, LOS ANGELES
FROM SAC, SEATTLE (164-81)
NORJAK
RE: UNSUB; [REDACTED] - SOURCE
RE LOS ANGELES TELETYPE TO BUREAU, SEATTLE AND NEW YORK, APRIL TWENTYTHREE, INSTANT.
FOR THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OF NEW YORK IN THE EVENT BUREAU GRANTS AUTHORITY FOR INTERVIEW OF KARL FLEMING, THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS FURNISHED:
INTERVIEW WITH [REDACTED] AT TARZANA, CALIFORNIA, DISCLOSED THAT HE HAD TRAVELLED TO SEATTLE AND STAYED AT THE EDGEWATER INN, FEBRUARY TWENTYTWO, SEVENTYTWO, WHERE HE AND [REDACTED] KARL FLEMING, ALSO FROM LOS ANGELES. [REDACTED] HAD INDICATED ON LATER INTERVIEW, THAT AT SEATTLE THEY WERE DRIVEN BY A MAN NAMED [REDACTED] IN A RENTED HERTZ CAR TO A WATER-SIDE PARK IN THE NORTH AREA OF SEATTLE WHERE [REDACTED] [REDACTED] UP BY [REDACTED] RECORDS OF EDGEWATER INN REFLECT
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Approved: [signature] Special Agent in Charge
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UA-S:47 (mRF) NY-5:30 (FPN) Sent A—6:03(JS) AM Per ___DcA___
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U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE: 1971—413-135
DB COOPER-49497
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SE 164-81
PAGE TWO From
TELEPHONE CALL BY ROOM REGISTERED TO FLEMING TO TELEPHONE NUMBER AREA CODE [REDACTED] [REDACTED] IN SILVERDALE, WASHINGTON, LISTED TO A [REDACTED]
TRANSPORTATION AT THE MOTEL WHICH WAS FURNISHED BY [REDACTED] WAS IN A YELLOW SMALL CAR AND INVESTIGATION NOW REFLECTS THAT [REDACTED] DOES IN FACT POSSESS SUCH A CAR WHICH IS A PINTO. [REDACTED] IS [REDACTED] HAS BROWN HAIR, WEARS A BEARD AND OTHERWISE FITS THE DESCRIPTION OF [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] WAS INTERVIEWED ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS APRIL TWENTYTWO, TWENTYTHREE, SEVENTYTWO AND HAS NOT GIVEN A COMPLETE AND ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF HIS INVOLVEMENT OR ASSOCIATION WITH [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] STATED THAT THE ONLY TIME HE SAW KARL FLEMING OF NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE WAS ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, LATER CORRECTED WHEN [REDACTED] REMINDED HIM IT WAS A MONDAY, DURING THE LATTER PART OF FEBRUARY, LAST, DATE NOT RECALLED, WHEN FLEMING
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Approved: _____________ Sent _________ M Per _________ Special Agent in Charge U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE: 1971—413-138
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DB COOPER-49498
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SE 164-81 PAGE THREE
[REDACTED] AT LENGTH FOR PERSONAL BACKGROUND. AFTER THAT INTERVIEW [REDACTED] AND FLEMING HAD DINNER AT THE WINDJAMMER RESTAURANT, SEATTLE, AND ON THAT SAME EVENING [REDACTED] WAS GIVEN [REDACTED] CASH BY FLEMING ON BEHALF OF [REDACTED] BASED ON HIS THEORY OF THE NOV. TWENTYFOUR, SEVENTYONE, HIJACKING OF A NORTHWEST AIRLINES PLANE. FLEMING WAS GIVEN A RECEIPT FOR THAT PAYMENT. [REDACTED] STATED THE MONEY WAS ACTUALLY FOR EXPENSES INCURRED BY HIM IN RESEARCH AND TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
[REDACTED] ADMITS HAVING MADE SEVERAL CALLS TO THE EDGEWATER INN, SEATTLE, FOR FLEMING, BUT MAINTAINS THAT HE NEVER GOT IN TOUCH WITH HIM IN THE MOTEL. HIS REASON FOR CALLING, WAS TO SEE IF FLEMING WAS [REDACTED] AND IF FLEMING WAS [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] [REDACTED] SUBSEQUENTLY CALLED FLEMING AT FLEMING'S HOME IN CALIFORNIA TO SEE IF FLEMING THOUGHT [REDACTED] [REDACTED] FOR THE HIJACKING. [REDACTED] SAID FLEMING WAS ENTHUSIASTIC
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Approved: _________ Special Agent in Charge Sent _________ M Per _________ U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE: 1971—413-135
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DB COOPER-49499
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SE 164-81 PAGE FOUR
AND THOUGHT [REDACTED] HOWEVER, FLEMING SAID HE DID NOT KNOW WHERE HE WAS GOING TO GET THE [REDACTED] [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] WAS SHOWN TWO SEPARATE PHOTOGRAPHS. ONE OF A MAN WEARING A BLACK AND WHITE KNIT CAP AND SUNGLASSES AND ANOTHER OF A MAN STANDING AT THE CURB, ALSO WEARING SUNGLASSES AND SHOWING STORE FRONTS. THE LATTER PICTURE BELIEVED MADE AT BREMERTON, WASHINGTON. [REDACTED] DENIES KNOWING ANYTHING WHATEVER ABOUT EITHER PICTURE AND STATES HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR BEING MADE AND DOES NOT KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSONS IN THE PICTURES. HOWEVER, HE DID SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS THE MAN IN THE BLACK AND WHITE CAP WAS A [REDACTED] OF BELLEVUE, WASHINGTON.
[REDACTED] INTERVIEWED APRIL TWENTYTWO AND TWENTYTHREE, SEVENTYTWO AND STEADFASTLY DENIES BEING THE MAN IN EITHER PHOTO AND MAINTAINS HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM. [REDACTED] STATED HE CAN CONFIRM BY RECORDS HIS WHEREABOUTS ON NOVEMBER TWENTYFOUR, SEVENTYONE AND FEB. TWENTYTHREE,
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Approved: _______________ Sent _______________ M Per _______________ Special Agent in Charge U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE: 1971—413-135
DB COOPER-49500
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SE 164-81 PAGE FIVE [handwritten annotation, partially illegible: Ch. [guess: latters]being Ch[guess: r] on]
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SEVENTYTWO, [strikethrough: WHICH IS THE] DATE/ON WHICH THE PHOTO OF THE MAN IN THE KNIT CAP WAS MADE. THIS WILL BE DONE THROUGH RECORDS ON MONDAY, APRIL TWENTYFOUR.
DURING INTERVIEW WITH [redacted] HE SUGGESTED THAT CONTACT BE MADE WITH DENISE KALETTE, A REPORTER FOR THE BREMERTON SUN. DENISE KALETTE, ONE EIGHT THREE THREE BAY STREET, PORT ORCHARD, WASHINGTON INTERVIEWED ON APRIL TWENTYTHREE, INSTANT AND ADVISED SHE HAD TALKED TO [redacted] OF SEABECK, WASHINGTON, SEVERAL TIMES AS A RESULT OF A "D.B. COOPER ADD" HE HAD PLACED IN THE NEWSPAPER IN CONNECTION WITH A [redacted] ACCORDING TO KALETTE, [redacted] SAID HE HAD TALKED TO A MAN WHOM HE BELIEVED TO BE THE HIJACKER, RECOGNIZING HIS VOICE AS SOMEONE HE KNEW BEFORE AND HAD DEALT WITH. [redacted] TOLD HER HE HAD SEEN SOME TWENTY DOLLAR BILLS WHICH HE INFERRED WERE FROM THE HIJACKING LOOT. [redacted] ALSO TOLD HER [redacted] [redacted] AND THAT THEY WERE [redacted] AND THAT HE, [redacted] DROVE THEM AROUND AND SAID KARL FLEMING OF NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE,
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Approved: ________ Special Agent in Charge Sent ________ M Per ________ DB COOPER-49501 U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE: 1971-413-135
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SE 164-81 PAGE SIX [handwritten: TOLD HER] WAS ONE OF THIS CREW. [REDACTED] SAID HE WAS ORIGINALLY [REDACTED] [REDACTED] IN CALIFORNIA IN WHICH KARL FLEMING WAS TO BE THE MANAGING EDITOR AND WAS GOING TO DO THE FEATURE STORY ON THE HIJACKER IN THE FIRST EDITION. SHE STATED SHE CALLED KARL FLEMING IN LOS ANGELES AND HE AT FIRST DENIED EVER HEARING THIS STORY AND THEN SAID HE GOT A CALL LATE ONE NIGHT BASED ON A WILD SUPPOSITION WHICH WAS SO WILD HE DISREGARDED THE CALL. KALETTE TOLD HER MANAGING EDITOR ABOUT [REDACTED] AND, AFTER MAKING SOME [handwritten: not to use it] INQUIRY, THEY DECIDED [strikethrough: THAT IT WAS NOT NEWS WORTHY] SINCE THEY DOUBTED HIS VERACITY.
A PHOTOGRAPH OF [REDACTED] AS WELL AS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE UNSUB IN THE BLACK AND WHITE KNIT CAP WILL BE FORWARDED TO NEW YORK BY AIR COURIER TODAY. IF FLEMING IS INTERVIEWED THESE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOULD BE EXHIBITED TO HIM TO DETERMINE IF [REDACTED] IS [REDACTED] AND ANY INFORMATION [handwritten: knit] HE CAN FURNISH ON UNSUB IN [strikethrough: STOCKING] CAP.
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Approved: _______________ Sent ___________ M Per _________ DB COOPER-49502 Special Agent in Charge U. S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE: 1971—413—195
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SE 164-81 PAGE SEVEN
NEW YORK ALSO SHOULD SHOW TO FLEMING THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE MAN STANDING IN THE STREET AS ORIGINALLY FURNISHED BY THE NEW YORK OFFICE TO THE BUREAU TO SEE IF HE CAN IDENTIFY THE PERSON PHOTOGRAPHED. NEW YORK WILL BE ADVISED SUBSEQUENTLY OF FLIGHT SCHEDULES.
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DB COOPER-49503
Serials: SE 164-81