SAC Springfield to SAC Seattle re voluntary interview of NORJAK suspect

Document date 28 March 1972

Part 24pages 212–2154 pagesDB Cooper-7609–7612

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Document: Memo SAC Springfield to SAC Seattle re voluntary interview of NORJAK suspect
Id: Cooper-Part-24:212-215
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 24 pp. 212–215 (DB Cooper-7609–7612), Memo, dated 28 Mar 1972, serial SE 164-81-2615 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-24%3A212-215

OPTIONAL FORM NO. 10 MAY 1962 EDITION GSA FPMR (41 CFR) 101-11.6 UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT Memorandum

TO : SAC, SEATTLE (164-81) DATE: 3/28/72 FROM : AC, SPRINGFIELD (164-31) (RUC) SUBJECT: NORJAK RE: [redacted]

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Re Springfield letter to Seattle dated 3/7/72.

On 3/22/72, [redacted] telephonically contacted this office and advised that he had heard that agents of this office were checking on him, attempting to learn of his where- abouts. [redacted] advised that he is desirous of learning the reasons for the inquiries concerning him and would be willing to appear at the Springfield Office of the FBI for interview.

At 3:10 PM, [redacted] appeared at the Springfield Office of the FBI and was interviewed concerning captioned matter. He was provided a voluntary appearance form which he read, advised he understood and signed. [redacted] advised that he terminated his employment with [redacted] [redacted] he flew to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, by way of St. Louis, Missouri, for the purpose of becoming employed by the [redacted] Upon his arrival in Fort [redacted] Lauderdale he stayed at the [redacted] [redacted] for approximately two days while he looked for housing. He worked for [redacted] continuously until the first part of August. On an unrecalled date in July [redacted] the and he rented a house at [redacted] the realtor being [redacted] After [redacted] employment at [redacted] [redacted] he spent approximately three weeks at Fort Lauderdale looking for work but was unable to find anything satisfactory.

On approximately 9/5/71, he [redacted] vacated their house at Fort Lauderdale and moved to Fayetteville, North Carolina, as he had a job lined up with [redacted] Upon his arrival in Fayetteville, he learned that the job fell through. He registered for unemployment in Fayetteville and received unemployment compensation until 12/1/71, at which time he went to work for the [redacted] Fayetteville, North Carolina. He worked continuously for the [redacted]

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(2) - Seattle (164-81) 1 - Miami (Info) 1 - Charlotte (Info) 1 - Springfield (164-31) MJV/mab (5)

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164-81-2615 SEARCHED INDEXED SERIALIZED FILED MAR 31 1972 FBI - SEATTLE

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Buy U.S. Savings Bonds Regularly on the Payroll Savings Plan DB Cooper-7609

SI 164-31

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[REDACTED] until three weeks ago when he terminated his [REDACTED] employment. He worked for a short period of time for [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and terminated with them on [REDACTED] He and his family left Fayetteville, North Carolina, on 3/20/72, and traveled to Springfield, Illinois, where he [REDACTED] He advised he is going to interview with [REDACTED] all of whom have shown interest in employing him in the past.

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[REDACTED] advised that the problem concerning [REDACTED] in Fort Lauderdale had been straightened out and, in fact, [REDACTED] He advised that in October, 1969 [REDACTED] Fayetteville, North Carolina. In August, 1970, he got out of the service and came back to work [REDACTED] [REDACTED] Springfield, Illinois. When he left the employ of [REDACTED] in July, 1971, he proceeded to Fort Lauderdale and [REDACTED] He notified his finance company that he was in Florida but did not notify them when he moved to Fayetteville, North Carolina. Because he was [REDACTED]

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[REDACTED] advised he drew unemployment compensation from [REDACTED] at a rate of $52 per week. While in Fayetteville, North Carolina he [REDACTED] resided at [REDACTED] Fayetteville, North Carolina. His realtor was [REDACTED] He advised that during the Thanksgiving 1971 weekend he was at his residence in Fayetteville and this could be verified through [REDACTED] his realtor there, and [REDACTED] He also advised that approximately two weeks before he went to work for [REDACTED] he submitted an application which would have been during the pertinent period of time.

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He advised that sometime close to Thanksgiving he was interviewed by two agents of the FBI concerning a series [REDACTED] North Carolina, and the agents displayed to him the series of photographs to which he was requested to make an identification but could not. [REDACTED]

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DB Cooper-7610

SI 164-31

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advised that during his last hitch in the service he was employed by the [REDACTED] North Carolina, b6 as an [REDACTED] b7C and attained the rank of [REDACTED] During his la[s]t hitch he had only made two parachute jumps as his [REDACTED]

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He advised that he has always worn a crew cut and has never let his hair grow out. This could also be verified through [REDACTED] in Fayetteville. b6 b7C

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He advised that for money while living in Fort Lauderdale he [REDACTED] b6 [REDACTED] in Fort Lauderdale. b7C He advised that he has no present bank accounts and only approximately $500 in assets.

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He advised that he has never done any solo flying and has only approximately 12 hours of pilot experience and this has always been with an instructor and spread over the last 20 years.

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He advised that he has an extremely limited vocabulary [REDACTED] He studied [REDACTED] b6 [REDACTED] but can only recall a few b7C phrases.

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He further advised that he has no training in explosives and the only times he has been in California were to change planes with the service either en route to Vietnam or returning to the United States. He advised he has never been in Portland, Oregon, Seattle, Washington, or Las Vegas, Nevada.

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While in Fayetteville, North Carolina, he purchased a [REDACTED] b6 [REDACTED] North Carolina, b7C and the balance is approximately [REDACTED]

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While job hunting in [REDACTED] b6 [REDACTED] will be residing with [REDACTED] b7C [REDACTED] Metropolitan Police Department, Washington, D. C., [REDACTED]

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DB Cooper-7611

SI 164-31

While employed for [REDACTED] his salary was $100 a week plus five percent of his sales.

He further advised that he maintains a valid passport, [REDACTED] Review of this passport shows no foreign travel listed.

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LEADS:

SEATTLE DIVISION

Will, if deemed warranted, request Charlotte and Miami Divisions to verify [REDACTED] story. It is noted Charlotte and Miami have information copies of this communication.

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THIS INDIVIDUAL IS BEING SOUGHT IN CONNECTION WITH THE EXTORTION OF $200,000 FROM NORTHWEST AIRLINES BY THREATENING THE CREW OF THE AIRLINE WITH A PACKAGE WHICH HE STATED CONTAINED A BOMB. HE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED DANGEROUS.

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DB Cooper-7612

Serials: 164-31, SE 164-81, SE 164-81-2615, SI 164-31