Interview in Anchorage re 1971 acquaintance knowledgeable about aircraft and parachuting
This copy: Part 31 pp. 175–178Also filed at Part 73 pp. 43–46 (primary) · Part 72 pp. 123–125
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Interview in Anchorage re acquaintance knowledgeable about aircraft, NORJAK suspect
Interviewed 15 May 1973Dictated 16 May 1973Transcribed 16 May 1973
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Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-31:175-178 Document: FD-302 interview in Anchorage re acquaintance knowledgeable about aircraft, NORJAK suspect Id: Cooper-Part-31:175-178 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-31%3A175-178 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 31 pp. 175–178 (DB Cooper-11360–11363), FD-302 interview, interviewed 15 May 1973, serial 76-61-4721 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-31%3A175-178
FD-302 (REV. 11-27-70)
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date of transcription 5/16/73
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[REDACTED], Anchorage, Alaska, telephone number [REDACTED], was interviewed in the presence of [REDACTED], [REDACTED] Anchorage Police Department, Anchorage, Alaska, in the offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Anchorage, Alaska.
[REDACTED] advised that during the year of 1971 he was [REDACTED] Anchorage, Alaska, on several occasions on [REDACTED] and/or [REDACTED] and/or [REDACTED]. He stated that in the Fall of 1971 and in connection with [REDACTED] for a period [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] stated that during that [REDACTED] with an individual whom he came to know as [REDACTED]. He stated that to his recollection [REDACTED] was [REDACTED] in the State of Alaska.
[REDACTED] advised that he found [REDACTED] to be a very interesting and intelligent individual. He advised that [REDACTED] was very knowledgeable about types of aircraft, aerodynamics, flight rules and regulations, speeds and altitudes. He stated that [REDACTED] was either a pilot and/or parachutist to his recollection. He advised that at that time there were numerous magazines and manuals relating to aircraft and flight and that during [REDACTED] [REDACTED] he observed [REDACTED] to be reading these various publications.
[REDACTED] advised that he can recall three conversations with [REDACTED] during this period of time wherein [REDACTED] indicated to him that he, [REDACTED] intended to do something spectacular and that what he did would be published in the newspapers. [REDACTED] never mentioned that he was going to hijack an aircraft and [REDACTED] never mentioned the fact that a plane or an airlines would be
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Interviewed on 5/15/73 at Anchorage, Alaska File # AN 164-59 76-61- 4721 by SA [REDACTED] :rms Date dictated 5/16/73
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DB Cooper-11360
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AN 164-59
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involved in the venture that he was discussing. [REDACTED] advised that he merely assumed himself that since [REDACTED] was knowledgeable about aircraft and flight operations and spent his time reading periodicals relating to that field and allegedly was a pilot and/or parachutist that whatever [REDACTED] eventually did accomplish would in somehow be related to the aircraft field. He gathered from [REDACTED] that money would be involved but [REDACTED] never volunteered the source of the money. He gathers from the conversation that it would be some kind of a heist on the part of [REDACTED]
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[REDACTED] advised that [REDACTED] even elaborated that when he accomplished this feat that he would be known by the first initials of his first and middle name and that he intended to use the surname of [REDACTED] [REDACTED] explained to [REDACTED] that in this way when his feat was publicized in the newspapers that it would be a clue to him, [REDACTED] that [REDACTED] had in fact accomplished what he had planned.
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[REDACTED] advised that at no time did [REDACTED] indicate a city or state in the United States where he was planning to perform this heist.
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[REDACTED] advised that he was [REDACTED] [REDACTED] in Anchorage prior to [REDACTED] [REDACTED] advised that to his recollection [REDACTED] had been [REDACTED] [REDACTED] stated that upon [REDACTED] he has neither seen nor heard from [REDACTED]
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[REDACTED] further recalls that during some conversations with [REDACTED] that [REDACTED] had indicated that at one time he had planned to rob a bank in Fairbanks, Alaska. [REDACTED] elaborated that he intended to use a white snowmobile and wear a white sheet for clothing and would make his escape into the countryside and being camouflaged his chances of escape were excellent.
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DB Cooper-11361
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b6 b7C
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AII 164-59
[REDACTED] advised that he believes [REDACTED] has been released from all charges and that he is presently located in the area of Portland, Oregon, and/or Seattle, Washington. He stated that [REDACTED] apparently has [REDACTED] in that area. He had no further details concerning this.
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[REDACTED] advised that at the time [REDACTED] was [REDACTED] he was sporting a gray van dyke beard, full length, and he had a gray thick moustache at the time. [REDACTED] smoked cigarettes but to his recollection he did not consider [REDACTED] to be a heavy smoker and he could not recall the brand of cigarettes that [REDACTED] smoked at the time. It is his recollection that [REDACTED] had very little money and could not afford cigarettes. He stated that [REDACTED] wore reading glasses but he does not know if they were prescription or whether [REDACTED] personally owned them or that they were furnished by [REDACTED] to him.
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[REDACTED] advised that to his recollection [REDACTED] combed his hair straight back and he cannot recall any part in the hair. He stated that [REDACTED] was very calm and very cool and very self assured.
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[REDACTED] added that [REDACTED] had no accent. [REDACTED] stated that with reference to [REDACTED] feat that [REDACTED] never mentioned any guns or bombs or incendiary devices or the use of same in the accomplishment of what [REDACTED] had planned to gain notoriety.
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[REDACTED] advised that he has no background information on [REDACTED] other than the belief that [REDACTED] may be from the East Coast of the United States.
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DB Cooper-11362
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b6 b7C
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AN 164-59
[REDACTED] advised that [REDACTED] was also b6 [REDACTED] and was also a b7C witness to the conversation of [REDACTED] concerning his plan to do something that would make newspaper headlines.
[REDACTED] advised that on May 11, 1973, he knows b6 for a fact that [REDACTED] departed Anchorage, b7C Alaska, with two female companions for Seattle, Washington. He stated that [REDACTED] is violently opposed to law enforcement officers and he knows for a fact that [REDACTED] would decline interview or if interviewed would knowingly and intentionally furnish false information.
[REDACTED] advised that he is self-employed in the b6 [REDACTED] in Anchorage, Alaska. b7C
[REDACTED] identified a photograph of [REDACTED] b6 [REDACTED] FBI number [REDACTED] as being identical to the b7C [REDACTED] who was [REDACTED] and about whom the above information was furnished.
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DB Cooper-11363
Serials: 76-61-4721, AN 164-59