Interview of Pierce County source re Sumner, Washington NORJAK suspect
Interviewed 20 July 1973Dictated 24 July 1973Transcribed 30 July 1973
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Id: Cooper-Part-32:170-171
Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-32:170-171 Document: FD-302 interview of Pierce County source re Sumner, Washington NORJAK suspect Id: Cooper-Part-32:170-171 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-32%3A170-171 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 32 pp. 170–171 (DB Cooper-11780–11781), FD-302 interview, interviewed 20 Jul 1973, serial SE 164-81-4875 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-32%3A170-171
FD-302 (REV. 11-27-70)
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
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Date of transcription 7/30/73
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[REDACTED b6/b7C], Sumner, Washington, phone [REDACTED b6/b7C] furnished the fol- lowing information concerning a man whom he phonetically knew as [REDACTED] residing at [REDACTED] [REDACTED] Sumner (by description of the location and the above phonetic name it was determined that the true name of the suspect is [REDACTED] [REDACTED] Sumner):
[REDACTED] explained that he was [REDACTED] with the Pierce County Sheriff's Office and starting ap- proximately six months before Thanksgiving of 1971 he had [REDACTED]. They were having trouble with the stop and go at 120th Street East and 214th Avenue East, and in connection with this he asked [REDACTED] who [REDACTED] if he could park his car in this to observe the activity at this stop and go. Because he did this frequently at night, he struck up several con- versations with [REDACTED] and ascertained over a period of time that [REDACTED] was previously [REDACTED] at Boeing Aircraft. Further, [REDACTED] [REDACTED] In his yard at the back was [REDACTED]
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He did not recall that it had [REDACTED] [REDACTED] lived in a mobil home and he had occasion to go into the home where [REDACTED]. [REDACTED] They had a modest home and [REDACTED] explained that he desired to get money to build a home on the prop- erty but it probably would be a long wait. He had con- tact with [REDACTED] up to about the time of the hijack and then there was a period he did not see him. Sometime about the time of the hijakk he had [REDACTED]
[REDACTED].
[REDACTED] from the Pierce County Sheriff's Office investigated [REDACTED] At the
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Interviewed on 7/20/73 at Tacoma, Washington File # SE 164-81 164-81-4875 by SA [REDACTED b6/b7C] pmh Date dictated 7/24/73 [REDACTED b6/b7C]
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DB Cooper-11780
2 SE 164-81
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time of the burglary, [REDACTED] recalled mentioning to him on some occasion that [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] and looked at him with a severe look as he had apparently "hit a raw nerve." Then shortly after the hijack, some of the [REDACTED] as they had been found in the brush [REDACTED] and in re- turning them, [REDACTED] had given him the same look as he had given him above.
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After that it was quite some time before he saw him again and then seeing the circular with the artist's conception of D. B. COOPER, he was struck with the fact that he had seen that person somewhere before. In reflecting back, he believes now that the drawing looks similar to [REDACTED] He explained that [REDACTED] of age, is about 5'9 1/2", has gained 15 to 20 pounds since the hijacking, and probably weighs 180 pounds. He wears dark glasses; however, [REDACTED] has never seen him smoke nor does he recall him dressing up in a suit. In reflecting back, he believes that in the latter part of 1972 [REDACTED] and in early 1973 he started [REDACTED] saw him in the restaurant [REDACTED] and he then indicated that [REDACTED]
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[REDACTED] stated that he feels that [REDACTED] may be D. B. COOPER in view of the similarity with the drawing, in view of the fact that he has come into some money, and further beca[u]se of [REDACTED] [REDACTED] Never at any time was there any conversation with [REDACTED] that would lead [REDACTED] to believe that he might have any knowledge of the hijacking.
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DB Cooper-11781
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b6 b7C
Serials: SE 164-81, SE 164-81-4875