SA Thomas J. Manning to SAC Seattle re investigation of reported found money near Larch Mountain
Document date 20 June 1975
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Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-36:089-091 Document: Memo SA Thomas J. Manning to SAC Seattle re investigation of reported found money near Larch Mountain Id: Cooper-Part-36:089-091 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-36%3A089-091 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 36 pp. 89–91 (DB Cooper-13636–13638), Memo, dated 20 Jun 1975, serial SE 164-81-6590 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-36%3A089-091
OPTIONAL FORM NO. 10 JULY 1973 EDITION GSA FPMR (41 CFR) 101-11.6 UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT Memorandum
TO : SAC, SEATTLE (164-81) (P) DATE: 6/20/75
FROM : SA THOMAS J. MANNING SusU
SUBJECT: NORJAK
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Re memo of SA THOMAS J. MANNING 6/18/75
Updating information set forth on referenced memorandum. At this time there is nothing other than conjecture that [REDACTED] b6 has knowledge of the location of a sizable amount of money. b7C
On 6/20/75 [REDACTED] advised that [REDACTED] was to visit him [REDACTED] b6 between 11:00AM and 3:00PM on this date. Due to this visit it was b7C deemed advisable for writer to contact [REDACTED] again witnossibility existing that [REDACTED] would prevail [REDACTED] to tell the truth since from personal observation by [REDACTED] and the writer both were of the opinion that [REDACTED] had knowledge which he was not imparting.
Writer on contact with [REDACTED] 6/20/75 determined that [REDACTED] b6 [REDACTED] had visited him and in presence of [REDACTED] b7C [REDACTED] insisted that [REDACTED] tell the full story. He insisted that he did not find the four 20 dollar bills he had furnished serial numbers on.
Previous contact with [REDACTED] on 6/19/75 resulted in his stating b6 that someone else [REDACTED] had approached him and furnished b7C the serial numbers previously set forth in referenced memo. He insisted that he did not find the bills, that someone else [REDACTED] [REDACTED] whose name he did not wish to divulge had found them in a 50' square at an unknown location in the woods. He spoke with this man and this individual was upset about having the money in his possession [REDACTED] and that the money could possibly be traced by serial numbers. He stated tat he never saw the bills but they were described to him as new bills somewhat weather beaten, not folded or mutilated in any way. The bills were found within the past month. There was an indication from his conversation, according to [REDACTED] that the area was the Larch Mountain campground [REDACTED] within the past month. He stated there was no mention ever made of his having found the bills, a suitcase, or a sizable amount of money. 164-81- 6590
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SEARCHED...........INDEXED............... SERIALIZED.........FILED.................. JUL 3 1975
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Buy U.S. Savings Bonds Regularly on the Payroll Savings Plan
DB Cooper-13636
On 6/19/75 [REDACTED] contacted his [REDACTED] [REDACTED] Olympia, Washington, advised him of the information developed to date and was told by [REDACTED] that in the event there should be any danger to - [REDACTED]
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On 6/20/75 when writer arrived [REDACTED] [REDACTED] had completed their visit and were then in Longview, Washington at the "also court house checking a record. [REDACTED] telephonically contacted [REDACTED] and was spoken with by the writer. He denied [REDACTED] he had found the money, that there was a suitcase, that it had been found behind a log or there was a "considerable amount of money". It was determined through contact by SA [REDACTED] at Wenatchee on 6/19/75 and through the telephone call that the name [REDACTED] had come up when [REDACTED] if he had any friends at [REDACTED] and the name of [REDACTED] was given. There is nothing at this time to indicate that [REDACTED] have involvement together in this money matter.
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Seemingly the information re the 4 bills was relayed by phone from [REDACTED] on 6/15/75.
[REDACTED] advised that after the telephone call from [REDACTED] as follows: immediately after phone call; Night of 6/19/75 and on and off thru evening spoke with [REDACTED] and was observed playing cards with [REDACTED]
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6/20/75 writer again interviewed [REDACTED] for any other information he had decided to furnish. He again reiterated that the 4 $20s were found by some one else who asked him to check their serial numbers to determine if they were "hot" bills. He never saw the money and generally stuck with his original story. However he did state during this conversation "personally I feel there is more" but refused to give any other information. He was asked if he would speak with the individual [REDACTED] who he alleged had the bills, stated he would and if any other information was developed would notify the FBI. He was forfefully advised of violations of 18 USC 1001, aidingand abetting, accessroy before and after fact, conspiracy and possession of stolen property problems he could be involved in if his story was not the complete truth.
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On 6/22/75 [REDACTED] telephonically advised the writer that on 6/21/75 [REDACTED] decided to take a picnic lucnh to Larch Mountain Camp ground [REDACTED] (a public camp ground). Driving up the road they found that due to culvert installation the road was almost impassable and [REDACTED] actually had to remove several rocks from the road in order to drive to the campground.
On arrival at the camp ground entrance he found a Texas car parked near the entrance with two apparently Mexican
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DB Cooper-13637
females and a small child in the car. He drove back into the camp- ground and then observed three Mexican looking men about 25' apart walking along in the woods and with their trousers water soaked. He got the impression they had been searching for some- thing in the vicinity of the campground. [REDACTED] and advised of what he had found.
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[REDACTED] then decided to leave the campground and he would get out of the car down the road and attempt to observe the three Mexican men, two women and the Texas licensed cars. He did this and advised [REDACTED] of what he was doing and asked for assistance. At that time he heard one of the Mexican men running down the road and he left the area. He then notified the Clark County SO of his need for a deputy not knowing what the Mexicans were doing. At approximately 5:30 PM as the Texas licensed car came down the road the deputy and himself stopped the car, secured a consent to search and searched the car and found nothing except a few trees they had picked in the area. They admitted that they had been to visit [REDACTED] and then went up the campground road to look at the country side for they had never been in the area. They were released but their names and the license plate number was taken and is now [REDACTED]
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[REDACTED] advised that [REDACTED] had observed [REDACTED] [REDACTED] with the five visitors and observed that he was obviously drawing a map. The Mexicans were asked about the map and stated that all [REDACTED] was doing was drawing their road out of [REDACTED] [REDACTED] advised that when he first came upon the Mexicans at the campground it was about 3:40 PM and visiting hours [REDACTED] [REDACTED] end at 3:00PM.
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He also stated that [REDACTED] had put his name on a waiting list for a phone call for Saturday evening but after the five Mexicans did visit he never made the phone call.
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[REDACTED] also advised that [REDACTED] have observed [REDACTED] engrossed in conversation for lengthy periods since [REDACTED] was first contacted by the FBI. [REDACTED] was advised that an agent would visit [REDACTED] on 6/23/75 and secure further information, license number of the Texas car and the names of the visiting Mexicans.
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DB Cooper-13638
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b6 b7C
Serials: SE 164-81, SE 164-81-6590