NITEL Birmingham to Seattle, Cleveland and Atlanta re interview of D.B. Cooper suspect
Document date 9 August 1975
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Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-36:153-159 Document: NITEL Birmingham to Seattle, Cleveland and Atlanta re interview of D.B. Cooper suspect Id: Cooper-Part-36:153-159 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-36%3A153-159 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 36 pp. 153–159 (DB Cooper-13704, DB Cooper-13706, DB Cooper-13707, DB Cooper-13708, DB Cooper-13709, DB Cooper-13710), Teletype, dated 9 Aug 1975, serial SE 164-81-1623 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-36%3A153-159
NR005 PH PLAIN 9:13PM NITEL AUGUST 9, 1975
TO SEATTLE (164-81) CLEVELAND (164-89) ATLANTA (164-054)
FROM BIRMINGHAM (164-35) (P) NORJAK
RE CLEVELAND NITEL TO BIRMINGHAM AND SEATTLE, AUGUST 4, 1975. FOR INFORMATION OF ATLANTA, REFERENCED NITEL ADVISED THAT [REDACTED] AKRON PD, ADVISED ON JUNE 16, 1975, THAT IN THE LATE MAY OR EARLY JUNE, 1975, WHILE ATTENDING A SPORTS- CAR RACE AT MANSFIELD, OHIO, HE MET AN INDIVIDUAL BY THE NAME OF [REDACTED] COVERING THE SPORTSCAR RACES. DUE TO SHORTAGE OF ACCOMMODATIONS, [REDACTED] SHARED A ROOM AT THE HOLIDAY INN AND DURING THIS TIME [REDACTED] AND HE CONVERSED ON NUMEROUS TOPICS. [REDACTED] RELATED HE WAS FORMERLY IN THE U. S. ARMY SPECIAL SERVICES AND HAD EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN PARACHUTING AND MILITARY ARTS. WHILE IN SERVICE, [REDACTED] CLAIMED TO HAVE BECOME CLOSE FRIENDS WITH ANOTHER MEMBER OF SPECIAL FORCES BY THE NAME OF [REDACTED] AND AS A RESULT [REDACTED] WAS CONTACTED BY [REDACTED] FOLLOWING THEIR RELEASE FROM SERVICE AND [REDACTED] HE HAD A GOOD DEAL GOING DOWN BUT NEEDED ONE MAN ON THE GROUND
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164-81- 1623
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[guess: SEARCHED] [guess: INDEXED] [guess: SERIALIZED] [guess: FILED] [guess: AUG] [guess: 1975]
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DB Cooper-13704
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AND INQUIRED IF [REDACTED] WERE INTERESTED AND IF SO, [REDACTED] WOULD BE SET UP FOR LIFE.
AT THIS TIME [REDACTED] STATED [REDACTED]
[REDACTED]
[REDACTED] WHEN [REDACTED] QUESTIONED [REDACTED] AS TO WHY D. B. COOPER WAS IDENTICAL TO [REDACTED] REPLIED THAT IT WAS BASED ON THE ABOVE, AND THE FACT THAT [REDACTED] HAD WORKED FOR BOEING AIRCRAFT IN CALIFORNIA AND HAD [REDACTED] [REDACTED] AND BASED ON THE COMPOSITE SEEN IN NEWSPAPERS, [REDACTED] STATED HE COULD ALMOST POSITIVELY STATE [REDACTED] AND COOPER ARE ONE AND THE SAME. ALSO, [REDACTED] REFERRED TO THE CLOSE PROXIMITY IN THE TIME BETWEEN HIS INITIAL CONTACT BY [REDACTED] AND THE SKYJACKING OF THE NORTHWEST AIRLINES PLANE.
BASED ON THE ABOVE, THE BIRMINGHAM DIVISION THROUGH [REDACTED] B. F. GOODRICH TIRE COMPANY, AKRON, OHIO, AND IN ATTENDANCE AT THE RACES AT ALABAMA INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY, TALLADEGA, ALABAMA, [REDACTED] WAS LOCATED AND INTERVIEWED ON AUGUST 9, 1975.
[REDACTED] WAS DETERMINED TO BE A WHITE MALE, BORN [REDACTED].
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DB Cooper-1370S
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[REDACTED] 6'2", 199 POUNDS, BROWN HAIR, KINKY CURLY, WORN MEDIUM-LONG, WITH BROWN EYES, WEARING THICK EYEGLASSES, AND FULL BEARD, DARK COMPLEXIONED, [REDACTED]
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APPEARED EXTREMELY UPSET OVER THE INTERVIEW INITIALLY, HOWEVER, SETTLED DOWN AND WAS INTERVIEWED EXTENSIVELY. [REDACTED] STATED THAT HE RECALLED SHARING A ROOM IN MANSFIELD, OHIO, WITH AN AKRON, OHIO [REDACTED] WHOSE NAME HE WAS UNABLE TO RECALL BUT EMPHATICALLY DENIED THE TRUTH OF THE INFORMATION FURNISHED BY THIS [REDACTED] AS TO STATEMENTS OF [REDACTED] RELATED HIS RECOLLECTION WAS THAT HE HAD OFFERED TO SHARE HIS ROOM WITH THIS [REDACTED] AFTER MEETING HIM AT THE TRACK AND LEARNING THIS [REDACTED] DID NOT HAVE A MOTEL ROOM.
[REDACTED] AND ANOTHER FRIEND WENT OUT FOR A FEW DRINKS AND UPON RETURNING TO THE ROOM [REDACTED] FOUND THIS [REDACTED] STILL AWAKE WATCHING TELEVISION. [REDACTED] STATED THAT A DISCUSSION ENSUED BETWEEN HE AND THIS INDIVIDUAL WHICH INCLUDED NUMEROUS TOPICS INCLUDING THAT OF RADAR AND THEN THE SKYJACKING. [REDACTED] STATED HE WAS UNABLE TO RECALL WHAT MIGHT HAVE TRIGGERED THE CONVERSATION
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DB Cooper-13706
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b6 b7C
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ON THE SKYJACKING OR HOW IT CAME TO BE. HE RECALLED TALKING ABOUT HOW THE INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO HAVE A [REDACTED] [REDACTED] BUT EMPHATICALLY DENIED THAT HE EVER MENTIONED THE NAME OF [REDACTED] IN THIS CONVERSATION. [REDACTED] STATED THAT HE DID SERVICE IN SPECIAL FORCES WITH A (FNU) BUT WAS NOT PARTICULARLY CLOSE AND HAS NOT HAD ANY CONTACT WITH [REDACTED] SINCE RELEASE FROM SERVICE. [REDACTED] STATED THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME HE HAD EVER HEARD THE NAME D. B. COOPER AND DEFINITELY DID NOT MENTION IT IN ANY WAY IN DISCUSSING THE SKY- JACKING AT MANSFIELD, OHIO.
[REDACTED] ADVISED HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ANYONE CONTACTING HIM TO ASSIST IN ANY TYPE OF A "JOB" AND FURTHER POINTED OUT THAT NE CONVERSATION HE DISCUSSED IDEAS FOR A NOVEL AND SOME OF THESE IDEAS INCLUDED THE USE OF SPECIAL FORCES IN OVERTHROWING A COUNTRY. [REDACTED] ADMITTED THAT DURING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SKYJACKING HE MIGHT WELL HAVE STATED THAT A SPECIAL FORCES TRAINED MAN COULD HAVE DONE IT AND WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THE MANY FACETS NECESSARY. [REDACTED] DENIED HAVING EVER BEEN CONTACTED BY [REDACTED] OR ANYONE ELSE NOR DID HE HAVE REASON TO SUSPECT ANYONE
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DB Cooper-13707
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IN THE COMMISSION OF THIS SKYJACKING IN NOVEMBER OF 1971. [redacted] ADVISED THAT HE WAS [redacted]
[redacted] INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY RESULTING
[redacted] INITIAL HOSPITALIZATION AT THE CANDLER GENERAL HOSPITAL, SAVANNAH, GA., AND LATER BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE VA HOSPITAL, ATLANTA, GA., VA NUMBER [redacted] ADVISED THAT HE WAS CERTAIN THAT THE DAY OF HIS [redacted] AND HE WAS ALMOST POSITIVE THAT THE YEAR WAS 1971 BUT IF NOT, HE WOULD HAVE BUSINESS RECORDS TO VERIFY HIS WHEREABOUTS AT HIS DECATUR, GEORGIA, RESIDENCE. [redacted] STATED HE WOULD VOLUNTARILY CONSENT TO TAKING LIE DETECTOR TEST TO CONFIRM THE ABOVE IF IT WAS DEEMED NECESSARY AND STATED HE WOULD ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE THROUGH HIS RESIDENCE FOR ANY FURTHER INQUIRY.
THE FOLLOWING DETAILED DESCRIPTIVE DATA WAS OBTAINED DURING THIS INTERVIEW. NAME [redacted] RACE WHITE, SEX MALE, DOB [redacted] HEIGHT 6'2", WEIGHT APPROXIMATELY 190 POUNDS, HAIR BROWN - KINKY CURLY, WORN MODERATELY LONG, EYES BROWN AND WEARS THICK EYEGLASSES. ADDRESS IS [redacted] DECATUR, GA., GEORGIA DRIVER'S NUMBER [redacted]
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DB Cooper-13708
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TS [REDACTED] ISSUED [REDACTED] AND BEARS PHOTOGRAPH WITH GOOD LIKENESSES, MILITARY SERVICE - SERVED FROM [REDACTED] THROUGH [REDACTED] SERVICE NUMBER [REDACTED] AND ADMITS MILITARY TRAINING IN SPECIAL FORCES INCLUDING PARACHUTING EXPERIENCE. [REDACTED] [REDACTED] DECATUR, GA., VA NUMBER IS [REDACTED]
OCCUPATION - [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] ISSUED TO [REDACTED]
ATLANTA, GA., ON FEBRUARY 21, 1969, AND CHECKED OUT ON MARCH [guess: 1], 1969, FOR FLYING PURPOSES. ARREST RECORD - CLAIMS HAD BEEN [REDACTED] ATLANTA, GEORGIA, IN 1972 AND CHARGES SUBSEQUENTLY DROPPED. EDUCATION - COMPLETED [guess: 10TH] GRADE. BANKING AFFILIATION - CLAIMS 2 AUTO LOANS FROM NATIONAL BANK OF GEORGIA FOR 1971 PORSCH BEARING GEORGIA LICENSE [REDACTED] AND 1972 AUDI, LICENSE UNKNOWN, PERSONAL ACCOUNT WITH TRUST COMPANY OF GEORGIA, ACCOUNT NUMBER [REDACTED] HOME LOAN WITH C AND S HOME MORTGAGE COMPANY, ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
PHOTOS OF SUBJECT TAKEN AT INTERVIEW.
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DB Cooper-13709
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ABOUT INFORMATION BEING FURNISHED TO ATLANTA FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES IN THE EVENT OO WISHES ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION, INCLUDING SUBSTANTIATION OF [REDACTED] ALIBI AND CONSIDERATION TO OBTAINING AUTHORIZATION FOR POLYGRAPH EXAMINATION.
SEATTLE IS REQUESTED TO SET OUT ANY ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION IN THIS MATTER.
FD 302'S OF INTERVIEW WITH [REDACTED] AND PHOTOGRAPHS MADE ON AUGUST 9, 1975, TO FOLLOW. END CORR. PAGE 5 LAST OF LINE 4 [REDACTED] WITH INITIAL" END GJW FBI SE ACK FOR ONE TEL CL TKS
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DB Cooper-13710
Serials: 164-35, 164-54, 164-89, BH 164-35, SE 164-81, SE 164-81-1623