Interview of National Park Service employee, El Paso, re NORJAK suspect
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Interview of Chamizal National Memorial employee, El Paso, re Cooper suspect
Interviewed 12 September 1975Dictated 17 September 1975
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Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-42:026-029 Document: FD-302 interview of Chamizal National Memorial employee, El Paso, re Cooper suspect Id: Cooper-Part-42:026-029 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-42%3A026-029 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 42 pp. 26–29 (DB Cooper-167, DB Cooper-16712, DB Cooper-16713, DB Cooper-16714), FD-302 interview, interviewed 12 Sep 1975 — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-42%3A026-029
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date 9/17/75
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[REDACTED] El Paso, Texas, was interviewed at the Chamizal National Memorial, U.S. Department of Interior, National Park Service, 800 San Marcial, where he is employed [REDACTED] [REDACTED] by Special Agent (SA) [REDACTED] who immediately identified himself as a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). [REDACTED] was advised of the purpose of this interview and volun- tarily furnished the following information:
On September 10, 1975, he read the article in the El Paso Times, captioned "Suspected Skyjacker Calls Similarity 'Kind of Scary'" with date line, Washington, which reflected that an acquaintance of his, [REDACTED] b6 [REDACTED] might possibly be identical with D. B. COOPER, the b7C airline hijacker who parachuted with $200,000 ransom money from a Northwest Orient, 727 Jet on Thanksgiving Eve, 1971, and was never seen again.
On September 10, or September 11, 1975, he attempted to contact [REDACTED] through b6 [REDACTED] and eventually b7C spoke with [REDACTED] who stated that "they" were having a hard time remembering what [REDACTED] [REDACTED] did on or about Thanksgiving Eve, 1971, until he [REDACTED] refreshed her memory.
On Thursday morning, Thanksgiving Day, date unknown, 1971, at approximately 3 A.M., he drove from his residence at [REDACTED] Alexandria, b6 Virginia to [REDACTED] b7C [REDACTED] east of Fairfax City, Virginia where he awoke [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and himself were joined by [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and proceeded in [REDACTED] automobile on Highway 81 or Highway 66 to Gainesville, Virginia, turning off to Route 55, heading west towards
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On 9/12/75 at El Paso, Texas File # EP 164-52
by SA [REDACTED] :mg[REDACTED] Date dictated 9/17/75
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1648)-19956
DB Cooper-16712
EP 164-52
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Marshall, Virginia. They were unable to reach Marshall, due to the heavy snow and traffic tie-ups so they turned around and went back to Hay Market, Virginia on Route 15, stopping at Frostie's Diner at Warrington, Virginia to have coffee. Not being able to get out of the Warrington area to the area they had selected to hunt in, they then proceeded to Quantico, Marine Corps Base, Quantico, Virginia and en route on Highway 66, found a car "wrapped around a tree" and deserted. They then proceeded on Highway 66 to Vinthill Farms turn off and proceeded to Quantico.
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He noted that it is a requirement in Quantico Marine Base, Quantico, Virginia, that one must register at the Marine Corps Base as a hunter and must receive an instruc- tion at an unrecalled building, prior to hunting. [REDACTED] [REDACTED] on Thanksgiving Day, 1971, at Quantico, Marine Corps Base for hunting at Quantico. He did not see [REDACTED] during the day inasmuch as [REDACTED] hunted in one sector of the Marine Corps Base and he hunted in another sector of the base. At the end of the day, [REDACTED] did return to [REDACTED] residence together.
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He was then working for Brentwood Maintenance Yard for National Capitol Parks and he did not take the day off and he noted this was the only time he ever hunted in Virginia on Thanksgiving Day.
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He noted that he had known [REDACTED] since approximately 1963 when they [REDACTED] [REDACTED] at Falls Church, Virginia.
[REDACTED] moved from Falls Church, Virginia in 1965 to North Madison, Ohio.
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In approximately 1966 to 1967, the [REDACTED] came to North Madison, Ohio and lived with him until they found a house of their own. While in Ohio, he recommended [REDACTED] for a job at Cleveland Crane and Engineering and would not recommend [REDACTED] for another job, inasmuch as [REDACTED] worked for only a short while before he [REDACTED] walked out on the job.
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In approximately 1967 or 1968, the [REDACTED] left Ohio and moved back to Virginia.
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DB Cooper-16713
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EP 164-52
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In approximately 1971, [REDACTED] moved back to Virginia and he noted that in approximately 1973 the [REDACTED] left Virginia to move out west, possibly Phoenix, Arizona noting that within a few months the [REDACTED] returned back to Virginia.
On July 7, 1974, he left Virginia for El Paso, Texas and has not heard from or spoken with [REDACTED] [REDACTED] since that date.
[REDACTED] (names unknown), who reside somewhere in Florida and [REDACTED] has made several trips to visit them.
The most money he has ever known [REDACTED] to have was approximately $1200.
He believes [REDACTED] who resides in some unknown town in Oklahoma.
[REDACTED] in San Antonio, Texas.
He noted that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] while there in Ohio, so [REDACTED] could buy [REDACTED] did not pay off the note.
He was exhibited color and black and white artist's conceptions of unknown subject and advised that none of them resembled [REDACTED] but noted that they best resembled himself if he lost approximately 40 pounds.
[REDACTED] is described as follows:
Sex: Male Race: White Citizenship: American Date of Birth: [REDACTED] Place of Birth: [REDACTED] Height: 5 feet 11 inches Weight: 200 pounds Scars and Marks: [REDACTED]
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DB Cooper-16714
EP 164-52
[REDACTED] [REDACTED] b6 Military b7C Service; US. Army. Serial Number [REDACTED] Discharge: Honorable. Military Specialty: [REDACTED] Present Employer: Department of Interior, National Park Service, since April, 1971.
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Serials: EP 164-52