SAC Sacramento to Director re female informant's NORJAK suspect information
Document date 15 March 1985
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Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-47:293-298 Document: Airtel SAC Sacramento to Director re female informant's NORJAK suspect information Id: Cooper-Part-47:293-298 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-47%3A293-298 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 47 pp. 293–298 (DB Cooper-1969, DB Cooper-19694, DB Cooper-19695, DB Cooper-19696, DB Cooper-19698, DB Cooper-19699), Airtel, dated 15 Mar 1985, serial SE 164-81-8797 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-47%3A293-298
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TRANSMIT VIA: PRECEDENCE: CLASSIFICATION: ☐ Teletype ☐ Immediate ☐ TOP SECRET ☐ Facsimile ☐ Priority ☐ SECRET X☒ AIRTEL ☐ Routine ☐ CONFIDENTIAL ☐ UNCLAS E F T O ☐ UNCLAS Date 3/15/85
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TO: DIRECTOR, FBI (164-2111)
FROM: SAC, SACRAMENTO (164A-50) (P)
SUBJECT: NORJAK CAA - HIJACKING (A) OO: Seattle
Re Bureau telephone call of Supervisor [REDACTED] Personal Crimes Unit, to SA [REDACTED] Sacramento Division, 3/14/85, and telcall of SA [REDACTED] to SA [REDACTED] Seattle Division, 3/14/85.
For the information of the Bureau and all receiving offices, on 3/14/85, one [REDACTED] a white female, date of birth, [REDACTED] who resides at [REDACTED] [REDACTED] Sacramento, California, provided the following information:
When she was approximately [REDACTED] years of age, she [REDACTED] to one [REDACTED] a white male, now believed to be approximately [REDACTED] years old. At the time of this [REDACTED] both were living in Patchgrove, Wisconsin, and had known each other for approximately [REDACTED]
As time went on, [REDACTED] She lost contact with [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, when she was approximately [REDACTED] years old. At that time, he had married and settled down.
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2 - Bureau 2 - Butte 2 - Milwaukie 2 - Portland (164A-41) 2 - Seattle (164A-81) 2 - Sacramento WAB:jk (12)
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Per 11c4 A-81 - 8797 [SEARCHED] [INDEXED] [SERIALIZED] [FILED] MAR 2 0 1985 DB Cooper-19694
SC 164-50
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She stated she was married for approximately [REDACTED] years, [REDACTED] She advised that in about [REDACTED] she was touring the Midwest with her children and her mother when she decided she would try to re-establish contact with [REDACTED] and his family on a social basis. She stated that she drove through Patchgrove, Wisconsin, but no one seemed to know him or the family as they evidently had moved from Patchgrove many years prior. She advised that after her vacation of that year, she made no more efforts to contact [REDACTED]
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She then stated approximately last [REDACTED] she came across some letters which made her think of [REDACTED] again, and decided to try and locate him. She then, through the telephone operator, attempted to contact [REDACTED] [REDACTED] in La Crosse and Eau Claire, Wisconsin. She advised she did succeed in locating [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and made telephonic contact with [REDACTED] The telephone number she used was [REDACTED] but she was not sure of the area code as the number was dialed by the operator.
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After talking to [REDACTED] it was determined by her that they had not seen [REDACTED] in years, but that they did get a [REDACTED] from him once in a while. [REDACTED] advised she left her number with [REDACTED] and sometime shortly after that, [REDACTED] returned the call and they talked for some time about [REDACTED] told her he believed that [REDACTED] was working in Billings, Montana, and was in the [REDACTED] She stated [REDACTED] could not furnish any actual address or much information about [REDACTED] as they had not maintained contact for many years.
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[REDACTED] continued that her curiousity got the best of her, and through the telephone operator, she made numerous calls to the Billings, Montana area, and was able to determine that people in Billings knew of [REDACTED] and stated they believed that he lived somewhere in the mountains around Billings, Montana.
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DB Cooper-19695
SC 164-50
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She then advised that on approximately [REDACTED] [REDACTED], while she was at work, [REDACTED] [REDACTED] She stated that inasmuch as she was at work she could not talk, but arrangements were made for [REDACTED] [REDACTED] She advised they did in fact [REDACTED] [REDACTED] She stated he indicated that he had been married twice, but he was no longer married and [REDACTED] [REDACTED] He was also [REDACTED] Billings, Montana, to see him, but due to the fact that she could not leave her job until at least [REDACTED] she declined at that time. She stated after the [REDACTED] [REDACTED] When it came to a point that they appeared to be [REDACTED] [REDACTED] stated to her that he had [REDACTED] He stated he
[REDACTED] [REDACTED] During that particular conversation, he did not furnish any other information, although [REDACTED]
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She stated two or three days later, [REDACTED] [REDACTED] at which time he made the statement, [REDACTED] She advised she indicated they meant nothing, and she did not know what he was talking about. She stated other conversations took place in which she again [REDACTED] She stated during a subsequent [REDACTED] that he finally asked her, [REDACTED] She told him that it meant nothing to her, and he then told her about the hijacking of the airliner by D. B. COOPER.
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[REDACTED] stated this particular hijacking meant nothing to her, as during that time in 1971 she was living with [REDACTED] and she worked from sunup to sundown, having little time to read the papers. She advised she felt very silly about this, so after [REDACTED] told her this, she went to the library and started reviewing all the newspapers concerning the hijacking. She stated
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DB Cooper-19696
SC 164-50
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during subsequent conversations he would allude to various things about the hijacking, but when she attempted to pin him down, he stated that, [REDACTED] She advised he also said that [REDACTED]
She advised that he made no statements that she can recall regarding any information that could not have been gained from reading the newspapers or various articles written about the hijacking.
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She did advise during their conversations and [REDACTED] she had told him that [REDACTED] and at one time, she was thinking about going into [REDACTED] This particular conversation was before he had made any indication that he had done something wrong. But based on this bit of information, he indicated that [REDACTED]
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She advised it was at this point he told her that he [REDACTED] but received [REDACTED] by [REDACTED] This [REDACTED] in the State of Nevada.
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With regards to the money, he advised during their conversations, [REDACTED]
Regarding the plane that was hijacked, she asked him if he [REDACTED] and he indicated, [REDACTED] She also asked him whether or not he [REDACTED] and he indicated, [REDACTED] that he learned this [REDACTED]
He also told her he [REDACTED]
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DB Cooper-1969
SC 164-50
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During their conversations she stated he told her [REDACTED] [REDACTED] in Billings, Montana, which business is [REDACTED]
[REDACTED]
[REDACTED] He furnished her a business telephone of [REDACTED] [REDACTED] He provided her a home telephone of [REDACTED] [REDACTED] indicated both telephones ring at his residence. She stated she has written him one letter (short note) and addressed it to [REDACTED] Reedpoint, Montana [REDACTED] Regarding his mental stability, [REDACTED] indicated during their conversations he told her that [REDACTED] and that was when [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] He indicated that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] He indicated that he has been married twice and she could not recall exactly how many children he had, but believed he had a son that was at least [REDACTED] years old.
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She stated from her memory sometime ago, she described him as a white male, approximately 5'8" to 5'9", well built, blondish hair and blue eyes. She advised he grew up in the Patchgrove, Wisconsin area and most likely went to Patchgrove High School if there was one, if not, he would have gone to school at a surrounding high school, exact name unknown.
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[REDACTED] advised that this revelation to her has upset her greatly and that she has no real desire to continue her association with [REDACTED] if the above facts are true. She indicated that she would be available for further interview by the FBI and would report any further contacts by [REDACTED] to the FBI. She stated she herself is not going to initiate any contacts inasmuch she does not want to continue this relationship based on what he has told her.
In view of the above, the following leads are set forth:
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DB Cooper-19698
SC 164-50
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LEADS:
BUTTE:
At Billings, Montana:
Will discretely ascertain further background information regarding [REDACTED] so as an assessment can be made to the validity of his story.
At Helena, Montana:
Will, upon receipt of further identifying data, obtain a driver's license photograph of [REDACTED] and forward same to Seattle, as well as Portland, to show to witnesses.
At Butte, Montana:
Will, upon obtaining background information regarding [REDACTED] request St. Louis Division to obtain [REDACTED] military records and forward same to Seattle and Portland for evaluation as to whether or not [REDACTED] could in fact be identical to D. B. COOPER.
Further leads in this matter regarding [REDACTED] are being left to the discretion of Seattle.
Sacramento will notify all receiving offices of any further contact by [REDACTED]
All offices should note that [REDACTED] name should be held in confidence at her request.
DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE CRIME, SUBJECT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS.
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DB Cooper-19699
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Serials: 164-2111, PD 164-41, SC 164-50, SE 164-81, SE 164-81-8797