Interview of NORJAK suspect at Clark County Jail, Vancouver, Washington

FD-302 (Rev. 3-10-82)

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

1 Date of transcription 5/26/87

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[REDACTED] Battleground, Washington, telephone [REDACTED] was contacted and interviewed at the Clark County Jail, Vancouver, Washington. [REDACTED] was informed as to the nature of the interview and subsequently provided the following information:

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Inasmuch as [REDACTED] was incarcerated in the Clark County Jail, Vancouver, Washington, he was advised of his rights by the interviewing agent. This was completed by way of reading [REDACTED] an Interrogation; Advise of Rights Form. [REDACTED] indicated he understood his rights and agreed to waive those rights and speak with the interviewing agent. [REDACTED] subsequently signed the Waiver of Rights Form.

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[REDACTED] advised interviewing agent that he was uncertain as to why he was currently incarcerated in the Clark County Jail. He understood that the Washington State Patrol arrested him under the authority of a warrant that was issued for his arrest in the state of New Jersey. He believes that it has something to do with [REDACTED]

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[REDACTED] has resided in southwest Washington since his [REDACTED]. Specifically, he shares a house with [REDACTED] in Battleground, Washington. Currently, [REDACTED] is employed by the MADELLIN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, Washougal, Washington. His immediate supervisor is [REDACTED] is employed as a [REDACTED]

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[REDACTED] advised that he first lived in the southwest Washington area in 1965. During that time he worked at numerous jobs including CROWN ZELLERBACH and ALCOA. He lived in Vancouver, Washington, during that time and moved back to North Dakota in 1966 or early 1967 after spending only two years here. Later in 1967, he moved back to the Vancouver, Washington area, and remained until 1974. Again, during those years, he worked at numerous jobs with CROWN ZELLERBACH and ALCOA and numerous other jobs. [REDACTED] advised that he was primarily employed as a [REDACTED] in virtually all of these employments. In 1974, [REDACTED] moved to the San Francisco Bay area. While there, he married [REDACTED]

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Investigation on 5/14/87 at Vancouver, Washington File # SE 164A-81-[guess: 8880]

by SA [REDACTED] 11 Date dictated 5/18/87

This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. GPO : 1986 O - 499-243 DB Cooper-19925

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They were married in Menlo Park, California, and remained there [REDACTED] At that time, [REDACTED] lived in the vicinity of Redwood City, California, where he worked as a [REDACTED] in various jobs. During that time, he [REDACTED] [REDACTED] They lived in the San Francisco Bay area until 1982, at which time they moved to the state of New Jersey. They remained in New Jersey [REDACTED]

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[REDACTED] served in the United States Army from [REDACTED] until [REDACTED] During his enlistment in the Army, he served with the 101st Airborne Division as a paratrooper. [REDACTED] advised that counting the jumps he made in training school, he believes he made a total of 10 or 11 parachute jumps out of aircrafts. Since leaving the military, [REDACTED] stated that he has had no occasion to do any parachute jumping or skydiving of any sort.

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[REDACTED] believes he has changed a little in the past 18 years. He advised that he has been balding since the time he was in the Army in [REDACTED] Approximately three or fours years ago, he quit smoking and advised that he gained approximately 20 or 30 pounds as a result of that. Additionally, in 1981, he grew a full beard.

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[REDACTED] advised that in recapping the many years that he resided in the southwest Washington area that he could be possibly off on some of the dates. He reiterated, however, that he recalls living here for at least two years in 1965 and again for many years in 1967. He lived generally in the Battleground-Vancouver area and worked primarily as a [REDACTED] in the wood products industry. [REDACTED] further stated that his intentions are to remain in Vancouver, Washington, and continue his employment at MADELLIN CONSTRUCTION. He felt strongly that even if he were extradited to New Jersey regarding his current legal problems, he would return to the Vancouver, Washington area.

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[REDACTED] informed the interviewing agent that his total financial picture was "bleak". He stated that to date, he has a total of approximately $60 to his name. In [REDACTED] when [REDACTED] in New Jersey. Since [REDACTED] [REDACTED] on various forms of entertainment. He advised he gave a portion of it to his children to help them out financially.

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[REDACTED] advised that he would be available for interview by the FBI at anytime deemed necessary. Additionally, [REDACTED] provided the following personal data:

Name: [REDACTED] b6 Date of birth: [REDACTED] b7C Current address: [REDACTED] Battleground, Washington Telephone: [REDACTED] Employment: [REDACTED] MADELLIN CONSTRUCTION Washougal, Washington Height: 5'10" Weight: 220 pounds Eyes: Hazel Hair: Brown Marital status: Divorced

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