Interview at Pace, FL re Duane Weber deathbed claim to be D.B. Cooper

FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95)

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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Date of transcription 02/13/97

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[REDACTED] social security number [REDACTED] of [REDACTED] Pace, Florida [REDACTED], telephone [REDACTED] was advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the purpose of the interview. [REDACTED] believes [REDACTED] deceased [REDACTED] was D.B. Cooper and provided the following information:

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DUANE LORIN (WEBER), date of birth 06/18/1924, SSN 293- 14-8862, also known as JOHN CHALK COLLINS, JR., date of birth 11/13/28, SSN 587-18-0349 was born in Willoughby, Ohio. He died of Polysystic Kidney Disease on 03/28/1995 in Pace, Florida. While confined to a hospital bed at the West Florida Regional Medical Center, Pensacola, Florida, he confessed [REDACTED] [REDACTED] that he was Dan Cooper, alias D.B. Cooper.

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In 1990, [REDACTED] said she found a blue parking ticket from the early 70s from the Seattle/Tacoma area. She asked WEBER why he was saving it and he threw it away.

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[REDACTED] said that WEBER had destroyed all photographs of himself prior to the late 70s. She later found a full-body photograph of WEBER wearing a plaid jacket. When she inquired about the photograph, WEBER replied that [REDACTED] had taken the photo right before the big one. [REDACTED] believes that WEBER has something on underneath his jacket in the photograph.

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[REDACTED] stated that WEBER would often relate stories of crimes that he and [REDACTED] SSN [REDACTED] had committed. She said WEBER told her that he went to prison in Colorado for a crime planned and committed by [REDACTED] who might have been a Navy careerist. He was stationed in the Seattle or Portland area during 1971. [REDACTED] believes that he is the reason that [REDACTED] and WEBER might have been in the area when the crime was committed. [REDACTED] believes that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] may have been an accomplice. She feels [REDACTED] will not talk if she finds out that WEBER is deceased.

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Investigation on 02/06/1997 at Milton, Florida

File # SE-164A-81 -[guess: 9976]

Date dictated

by SA [REDACTED]

SERIALIZED___FILED___ MAR 2 8 1997 FBI SEATTLE

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DB Cooper-21263

FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)

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Continuation of FD-302 of [REDACTED], On 02/06/1997, Page 2

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WEBER [REDACTED] for approximately four years. [REDACTED] may live in Georgia, north of Atlanta. Her last known telephone number was [REDACTED]

In the early 80s, the WEBER'S lived in Mobile, Alabama. They took a trip to Columbus, Georgia. WEBER pointed out a duplex house and told [REDACTED] that's where he use to live. In addition, he also pointed out a field and said that's where he use to jump. She said to him that he was never in the army. He replied that anybody can join the service during war times. She believes he may have served during the Korean war.

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[REDACTED] stated that WEBER had a securities license and that he sold insurance for Pyramid Life Insurance from 1961 - 1967. As an insurance salesmen, he avoided working in states that required fingerprints for the sale of insurance. On several occasions, [REDACTED] said that he could not be fingerprinted because if he did, he would spend the rest of his life in jail. In approximately 1977, WEBER had a nightmare. He awakened [REDACTED] screaming I left my fingerprints on the aft foot stairs (phonetic). He later explained that he was having nightmares about prison.

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In the late 70s or early 80s, WEBER was arrested for driving under the influence in Fort Collins, Colorado. He may have been fingerprinted.

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WEBER use to tell [REDACTED] that he had something named after him, but he would never say what it was. One day, while driving past the airport in Denver, Colorado, he pointed at a Boeing aircraft and told her that they called the stairs Cooper Vein. Reflecting back on the moment, [REDACTED] believes that the aircraft stair's is what was named after him.

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WEBER'S [REDACTED] Moreno Valley, California [REDACTED] telephone [REDACTED] told [REDACTED] that DUANE WEBER was imprisoned in Colorado and Illinois. He also told her that WEBER received a bad conduct discharge from the military on May 30, 1942. She did not know which branch of the military issued the discharge. She said [REDACTED] is in possiession of a letter received from DUANE WEBER, post marked on March 23, 1943 from an artillery camp called Camp

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DB Cooper-21264

FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)

SE-164A-81

Continuation of FD-302 of [REDACTED] , On 02/06/1997 , Page 3

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Sibert. [REDACTED] also stated that the family had a business (possibly a Sherwin-Williams paint store) which had a contract with Boeing Aircraft during World War II. [REDACTED] believes WEBER may have acquired his knowledge about Boeing Aircrafts during this time frame. In addition, [REDACTED] owned property in Tacoma, Washington.

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[REDACTED] said when WEBER wanted to get rid of things, he would throw them over bridges into large bodies of water. In the late 70s or early 80s, WEBER made a trip to Seattle via Interstate 5. Upon his return, she recalls reading in the paper that money from the D.B. Cooper case had been found along a waterway boarding Interstate 5. She told WEBER about it, and he replied, that the money was worthless.

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WEBER was left handed and smoked Winston cigarettes. He had a habit of saying, don't be ascared, replacing the word (afraid) with (ascared). Also he use to frequently place his left hand at his croutch, and say, let's get this fucking show on the road.

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WEBER owned a Chevy Astro Van, vehicle identification number 1G8CM1528GB245006. Prior to his death, he told [REDACTED] to check the van throughly. [REDACTED] checked the van and found nothing. She sold the van to [REDACTED] (LNU), of [REDACTED] Pensacola, Florida [REDACTED] on 06/01/1995. Two weeks later, [REDACTED] returned a wallet which they found in the van to [REDACTED] The wallet contained several pieces of identification. (See photos contained in 1A envelope) In August or September of 96, [REDACTED] spoke with [REDACTED]. She asked [REDACTED] if they had found any money in the van. [REDACTED] replied if they had found any money, they would have turned it over to the police. [REDACTED] believes they found something of value in the van because they are now living above their means.

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[REDACTED] has in her possession a 10K Gold-filled Girard-Perregaux Gyromatic watch which WEBER had [REDACTED] She believes the crime could not have been committed without a watch. In addition, she has a tie tack/pin which she says is similar to the one described in books as having being worn by D.B. Cooper. See photo enclosed in 1A envelope.

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DB Cooper-21265

FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)

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SE-164A-81

Continuation of FD-302 of [REDACTED] , On 02/06/1997 , Page 4

[REDACTED] said that [REDACTED] of Atlanta, Georgia, telephone [REDACTED] was WEBER'S oldest and dearest friend. She feels that if he confided in anyone about his past, it would be [REDACTED].

[REDACTED] provided copies of various Federal and State income tax returns. Also, she provided a copy of DUANE WEBER and [REDACTED] [REDACTED] a copy of a commutation of sentence from the State of Missouri, a Certificate of Birth, a handwriting sample, and numerous photos and pieces of identification.

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DB Cooper-21266

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