New York to Director, Seattle and Los Angeles re interview of man who met alleged D.B. Cooper

Document date 26 April 1972

Part 58pages 101–1088 pagesDB Cooper-24130–24137

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Document: Teletype New York to Director, Seattle and Los Angeles re interview of man who met alleged D.B. Cooper
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 58 pp. 101–108 (DB Cooper-24130–24137), Teletype, dated 26 Apr 1972, serial 168-497-411 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-58%3A101-108

NR35 NY PLAIN 1221 AM 4-26-72 URGENT 4-25-72 FPN TO DIRECTOR SEATTLE LOS ANGELES FROM NEW YORK (164-627)

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RESIDING [REDACTED] LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA, INTERVIEWED AT NEW YORK OFFICE OF [REDACTED] IN PRESENCE OF [REDACTED] IS A WHITE, MALE BORN [REDACTED] SIX FOOT ONE, ONE SEVENTY FIVE LBS, BROWN EYES, GREYING HAIR. [REDACTED] HAS BEEN CONNECTED WITH [REDACTED] FOR [REDACTED] YEARS AND HAS FORMED A CORPORATION IN LOS ANGELES, WITH [REDACTED] AGE APPROXIMATELY [REDACTED] THIS CORPORATION IS UNDER NAME [REDACTED] AND PLANS TO [REDACTED] IN THE NEAR FUTURE. [REDACTED] ADVISED HE WAS INTERESTED IN THE HIJACKING INCIDENT AND HAD PLACED ADVERTISEMENTS IN THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, PORTLAND, OREGONIAN AND SEATTLE TIMES INDICATING HE [REDACTED] [REDACTED] AND ASKING THAT " D. B. COOPER" CONTACT HIM LISTING HIS, [REDACTED] HOME TELEPHONE NUMBER. IN EARLY FEBRUARY END PG ONE

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SEARCHED___INDEXED___ SERIALIZED___FIELD___ APR 25 1972 [guess: ANGELES] [guess: OPI] [guess: NEV]

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DB Cooper-24130

PG TWO

[REDACTED] RECEIVED A TELEPHONE CALL AT HIS HOME AND REQUESTED CALLER RECONTACT HIM THE FOLLOWING EVENING SO THAT HE COULD SET UP ARRANGEMENTS FOR A SECURE TELEPHONE CALL. THIS INDIVIDUAL THEN CALLED THE FOLLOWING EVENING FURNISHING HIS NAME AS [REDACTED] AND BASED ON THIS TELEPHONE CALL, [REDACTED] AGREED TO MEET [REDACTED] AT A MOTEL AT THE SEATTLE AIRPORT, NAME UNRECALLED, ON OR ABOUT FEBRUARY FIFTEEN LAST. [REDACTED] CONTACTED [REDACTED] AT THIS MOTEL AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, KNOCKED ON THE SIDE DOOR OF THE MOTEL ROOM AND ENTERED THROUGH THIS SLIDING PATIO-TYPE DOOR. HE WAS INTRODUCED AS THE KIJACKER D. B. COOPER. AT THIS INITIAL MEETING [REDACTED] HAD REQUESTED THE SUM OF [REDACTED] FOR THE [REDACTED] CONCERNING THE HIJACKING. THIS WAS TO BE IN [REDACTED] [REDACTED] EACH. THE [REDACTED] WAS [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] THE [REDACTED] AND THE [REDACTED] [REDACTED] ADVISED THAT [REDACTED] WAS NOT AGREEABLE [REDACTED] [REDACTED] OBTAINED [REDACTED] FROM END PG TWO

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DB Cooper-24131

PG THREE

[REDACTED] AND THIS WAS THE FINAL PRICE AGREED ON BY [REDACTED] AND COOPER TO [REDACTED] AND TO [REDACTED] REQUESTED THAT [REDACTED] WHO RECENTLY HAD A SEVERE HEART ATTACK AND OPERATION, NOT BE CONTACTED DUE TO HIS POOR HEALTH AND IN VIEW OF THE FACT [REDACTED] WAS NOT AWARE OF THE FULL DETAILS CONCERNING [REDACTED] MEETING WITH COOPER AND [REDACTED]

COOPER WAS PRESENT ON FEB. TWENTY LAST AT THE EDGEWATER INN SEATTLE, WHEN [REDACTED] TURNED OVER THE [REDACTED] IN CASH CONSISTING OF AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF BILLS IN TWENTY DOLLAR, FIFTY DOLLAR AND ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR DENOMINATIONS. [REDACTED] OBTAINED A RECEIPT FROM [REDACTED] FOR THIS SUM OF MONEY, WHICH STIPULATED AN AGREEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE PUT IN A [REDACTED] BY COOPER AND [REDACTED] TO USE AS FUNDS FOR LEGAL DEFENSE IN THE EVENT COOPER WAS CHARGED WITH THE CRIME. [REDACTED] STATED THAT DURING THE COURSE OF CONTACTS WITH [REDACTED], HE LEARNED THAT THE TRUE NAME OF [REDACTED] AND COOPER BECAME EXTREMELY AGITATED AND CRITICIZED [REDACTED] FOR LETTING HIS TRUE NAME BECOME KNOWN. END PG THREE

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DB Cooper-24132

PG FOUR [REDACTED] ADVISED THAT ALL HIS CONTACTS WITH THE INDIVIDUALS HE KNEW AS D. B. COOPER WERE THROUGH [REDACTED]. HE ADVISED THAT HE INTERVIEWED COOPER ON FEB. TWENTY SECOND AND TWENTY THIRD AND ON THE SECOND DATE, USED [REDACTED] TO [REDACTED] COOPER. HE DID NOT ALLOW THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH COOPER AND [REDACTED] WITH COOPER. THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE IDENTITY OF [REDACTED] OTHER THAN BY HIS NICKNAME [REDACTED] HE IDENTIFIED A PHOTO OF [REDACTED] [REDACTED] FURNISHED BY SEATTLE OFFICE AS IDENTICAL TO THE INDIVIDUAL NAMED [REDACTED] HE HAD DEALT WITH INITIALLY USING ALIAS [REDACTED] AND TO WHOM HE PAID THE [REDACTED] HE IDENTIFIED THE PHOTO OF INDIVIDUAL WEARING A BLACK AND WHITE KNIT CAP AND THE PHOTO OF AN INDIVIDUAL WEARING WHAT APPEARED TO BE A WIG, AS THE SAME INDIVIDUAL HE INTERVIEWED, IDENTIFYING HIMSELF AS D. B. COOPER. END PG FOUR

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DB Cooper-24133

PG FIVE

[REDACTED] WAS NOT ONE OF INDIVIDUALS PRESENT WHEN WIG WAS PURCHASED. HE DOES NOT RECALL SEEING COOPER WITHOUT A HAT OR CAP WHENEVER HE MET HIM. COOPER DESCRIBED AS A DEVOUT CATHOLIC WHO HAD BEEN MARRIED TO THE SAME WOMAN FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS. COOPER ALLEGED HE OWNED A BOAT, A CAMPER AND THREE AUTOMOBILES. FURTHER DESCRIPTION NOT KNOWN. COOPER INDICATED HE HAD TWO CHILDREN, A MARRIED DAUGHTER AND A SON IN COLLEGE. COOPER INDICATED HE HAD OWRKED FOR BOEING AIRCRAFT COMPANY, SEATTLE, FOR FOURTEEN YEARS AND HAD BEEN DISCHARGED AND REPLACED BY A MAN FIFTEEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN HIMSELF, APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN THERE WAS A GENERAL LAY-OFF AT BOEING. COOPER INDICATED HE FORMERLY LIVED NEXT DOOR TO A EPISCOPAL MINISTER. [REDACTED] DESCRIBED COOPER AS A WHITE MALE ALMOST FIFTY YEARS OLD, ABOUT FIVE FOOT NINE TO TEN, ONE SIXTY TO ONE SIXTY FIVE LBS., LARGE EARS, THIN LIPS, SHARP NOSE, WITH BALDING DARK BROWN HAIR, RIGHT HANDED AND A HEAVY SMOKER OR FILTERED TYPE CIGARETTE. COOPER HAS SOME SORT OF TATTOO, FURTHER DESCRIPTION NOT NOTICED, ON THE [REDACTED] COOPER HAS A [REDACTED] END PG FIVE

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DB Cooper-24134

PG SIX AND HAS SLIGHTLY PROMINENT VEINS IN THE CENTER OF HIS FOREHEAD WHICH ARE SOMEWHAT OBVIOUS IN THE PHOTO OF COOPER TAKEN ON THE STREET. COOPER HAS [REDACTED] [REDACTED] OF THEM. HE CONCEALED [REDACTED] WITH MAKEUP PRIOR TO [REDACTED] ON FEB. TWENTY THREE [REDACTED] [REDACTED] ADVISED THAT HE WAS FURNISHED A XEROX COPY OF THREE TWENTY DOLLAR BILLS AND THE PHOTO OF COOPER ON THE STREET. [REDACTED] [REDACTED] DELIVERED THESE ITEMS TO THE NYO ON APRIL TWENTY ONE LAST BASED ON INSTRUCTIONS FROM [REDACTED] [REDACTED] PERSONAL ATTORNEY, TO FURNISH ALL INFO TO THE FBI. [REDACTED] HAD PREVIOUSLY FURNISHED A [REDACTED] COOPER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, ALONG WITH THE PHOTO OF COOPER IN THE BLACK AND WHITE CAP [REDACTED] ON THE BEACH. THIS [REDACTED] [REDACTED] COOPER, [REDACTED] [REDACTED] COOPER ALLEGED HE HAS CONCEALED THE MONEY WHERE NO ONE CAN FIND IT, EXCEPT FOR THREE TWENTY DOLLAR BILLS HE KEPT FOR COMPARISON WITH ANY PUBLISHED LIST. END PG SIX

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DB Cooper-24135

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PG SEVEN [REDACTED] ADVISED THAT [REDACTED] AT THE EDGEWATER INN MOTEL, EXHIBITED THREE TWENTY DOLLAR BILLS TO [REDACTED] IS " NINETY EIGHT PERCENT" POSITIVE THAT THE SERIAL NUMBERS OF THOSE THREE BILLS ARE IDENTICAL WITH THE XEROX COPY OF THREE BILLS HE RECEIVED FROM [REDACTED] [REDACTED] DID NOT RECORD THE SERIAL NUMBERS OF THE THREE BILLS EXHIBITED TO HIM BY [REDACTED] TOLD [REDACTED] HE MET COOPER WHEN [REDACTED] WAS ATTEMPTING TO [REDACTED] TO A GROUP OF BOEING EMPLOYEES. COOPER ASKED [REDACTED] HOW HE COULD INVEST SUFFICIENT MONEY TO OBTAIN A RETURN OF TEN TO TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. [REDACTED] VISITED COOPER AT HIS HOME AND OBSERVED TWO SKY-DIVING AWARDS ON A MANTLE PLACE AT COOPER'S HOME. COOPER IS ALLEGEDLY UNEMPLOYED AND EXISTING ON INTEREST AND DIVIDENDS FROM OTHER INVESTMENTS HE HAS MADE IN THE PAST. [REDACTED] ADVISED THAT HE WAS HOPEFUL THAT COOPER WOULD SURRENDER HIMSELF AND THE RANSOM MONEY. [REDACTED] HAS HAD NO CONTACT WITH COOPER SINCE FEB. TWENTY THREE AND SOMETIME SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, [REDACTED] CALLED [REDACTED] ADVISING [REDACTED] HE WISHED TO TALK TO COOPER. [REDACTED] SUBSEQUENTLY ADVISED [REDACTED] THAT COOPER HAS REFUSED TO CONTACT [REDACTED] UNTIL THE END PG SEVEN

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DB Cooper-24136

PG EIGHT.

[REDACTED] ADVISED THAT [REDACTED] [REDACTED] CONTACT WITH COOPER. [REDACTED] ADVISED THAT HE HAD CONTACTED [REDACTED] [REDACTED] COOPER IS APPREHENDED AND CONVICTED.

[REDACTED] ADVISED THAT HE WILL RECONTACT HIS PERSONAL ATTORNEY, [REDACTED] TO DETERMINE IF [REDACTED] WILL AGREE TO

[REDACTED] COOPER AND RECEIPT FOR [REDACTED] RECEIVED BY [REDACTED] STATES HE BELIEVES HE TALKED TO THE ACTUAL HIJACKER, WHO IS REVEALING HIS BACKGROUND AND IS WILLING TO CONFESS TO THIS INCIDENT BECAUSE OF HIS CATHOLIC UPBRINGING. [REDACTED] STATED THAT BASED ON HIS [REDACTED] YEARS EXPERIENCE AS A [REDACTED] HE IS MORE THAN NINETY PERCENT CONVINCED THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HE CONTACTED WAS THE HIJACKER.

NYO HAS APPOINTMENT WITH [REDACTED] AM OF APRIL TWENTYSIX NEXT RE OBTAINING [REDACTED] [REDACTED] AND RECEIPT. BUREAU AND OTHER OFFICES WILL BE IMMEDIATELY ADVISED OF RESULTS. E ND

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AXV FBI LOS ANGELES CLR SORRY LA PLS GO TO TALK HAVE SHORT FACSIMILE AS I WAS ABOUT TO SAY FACSIMILE MACHINE IS BUSY CALL US IN ABOUT Q Q 10 .8,753 10 MINUTES CLR

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Serials: 168-497-411, NY 164-627