Insert re SA Thomas J. Dugan interview of experienced parachutist on hijacker jump feasibility
Document date 30 November 1971
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 91 pp. 138–140 (DB Cooper-40511–40513), Report, dated 30 Nov 1971 — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-91%3A138-140
PD 164-41 TJD:csm 1
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Subject: [REDACTED]
The following investigation was conducted by Special Agent THOMAS J. DUGAN on November 29, 1971:
[REDACTED] was interviewed at [REDACTED], Oregon, on November 29, 1971, and advised as follows:
He is [REDACTED].
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He advised he had been interviewed by two FBI Agents from Longview on Wednesday, November 24, 1971, inasmuch as he [REDACTED]. He said at that time he was shown a number of "mug shots" and that the "mugshot" in the upper left hand corner seemed familiar to him, but he could not recall who this might be or the man's name. He advised that he now recalls who this might be, on [REDACTED], who is from Southern California. [REDACTED] can usually be found in or around [REDACTED], California, or [REDACTED] out of Los Angeles. He said [REDACTED] has
[REDACTED] described [REDACTED] as about 5'10" or 5'11" tall, 175 pounds, dark, and in [REDACTED].
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[REDACTED] stated that he would like to see this "mug shot" again, that is the one he was shown by the FBI Agents from Longview, Washington.
[REDACTED] advised after being shown the artist's sketch of the unknown subject, that "no one [REDACTED] fits because of the age factor."
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[REDACTED] further advised that on the basis of description
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DB Cooper-40511
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and facial features, he could probably name around [redacted] men [redacted] who would fit. He said that in order to do this it would be necessary to [redacted] [redacted]
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The description and sketch of the unknown subject were left with him.
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He advised [redacted] [redacted]
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[redacted] stated that he has given considerable thought of what action the unknown subject had taken, based on what he, [redacted] would have done.
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[redacted] believed that the unknown subject was disappointed with the "chutes" that were given him. He was probably expecting "sport chutes" instead of the "emergency chutes" that he got.
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He stated that the reason the rear door of the 727 was not opened immediately after the airplane took off for Seattle was because the unknown subject was "repacking" the "chute" and did not want any air circulating in the airplane. He said by making some adjustments, the "emergency chute" could have been altered so that it could be made into a directional chute.
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He advised that before an experienced jumper would jump, particularly at night, he would want to have about five miles of visibility and at least broken clouds at five or ten thousand feet. He could pre-determine the above by checking with Flight Service Station, FAA 282-7293. He believes that unknown subject would jump near some populated area, which he could determine from lights. He believes that because of the overcast and mountainous condition between Seattle and Cottage Grove, Oregon he would have considered jumping in the Medford - Ashland, Oregon area, the Red Bluff, California area, or where the plane made the left turn to Reno.
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DB Cooper-40512
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[REDACTED] believed the unknown subject would have had no freezing problem jumping at 10,000 feet. He believes he would have a "free fall" to 5,000 feet and the rate of descent with the chute open would have been 1,000 feet per minute.
[REDACTED] knew of no trip made by a group of skydivers where a Boeing 727 was used in a skydiving exercise in the Southwest.
[REDACTED] said that in his opinion a skydiver from the Northwest area would probably not expose himself as he may be recognized and he feels that the unknown subject probably came from the Southwest area.
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DB Cooper-40513
Serials: PD 164-41