Interview at Delta, Colorado re possible NORJAK suspect traveling from Walla Walla

FD-302 (REV. 11-27-70)

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Date of transcription [redacted] 11, 1971

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[redacted] was contacted at the home of [redacted] Colorado.

He stated that he had been in Walla Walla, Washington with [redacted], telephone number [redacted] on Thanksgiving, November 25, 1971. He said that the next day he went to [redacted] Montana where he stayed with [redacted] [redacted]. He stated he left the BARNES residence December 2, 1971, and drove to [redacted] Colorado, stopping one night at Provo, Utah where he slept in his truck. [redacted] added that he had also made other trips between Walla Walla, Washington and [redacted], Montana but that the dates were vague and he could not specifically fix the times.

[redacted] first claimed that he knew no one with any parachuting experience and that his family was made up of farmers only so it would be unlikely that any of them would know anything about parachuting. He was asked specifically whether any [redacted] knew anything about parachutes and parachutes jumping and [redacted] answered that they did not.

When asked about the [redacted] and he stated that [redacted] after a great deal of deliberation stated he believed that [redacted].

When asked if he had been talking about plane hijacking to anyone, [redacted] responded that he had been [guess: angered] [redacted] Colorado when signing [redacted] up [redacted] and had told her in a response to a question about his prior employment that [redacted] stated he also recalled mentioning in a joking matter to [redacted]

that[?], referring to the hijacking.

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Interviewed on 12/7/71 at Delta, Colorado File # DN 164-58 [redacted] /64-41-692 by SA [redacted] :cjm Date dictated 12/[redacted] SEARCHED INDEXED SERIALIZED [redacted] FILED JAN 1 0 1972 FBI — PORTLAND

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DB Cooper-41329

DL 164-88 2

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He was asked specifically what made him think of [REDACTED] as a suspect and he stated only because [REDACTED] stated he did not know why the fact that [REDACTED] was forgotten by him before during the conversation.

[REDACTED] advised that he had not seen [REDACTED] for about eight years and that at that time [REDACTED] in San Mateo, California and had been trying to get into the California Highway Patrol. He noted that [REDACTED] had gotten into trouble in San Mateo [REDACTED].

He described [REDACTED] as being a White, male, American, late 20s to early 30s, 6'1", 180 to 200, medium build. [REDACTED] went on to say that the artist composite drawing of the hijacker of the plane in Washington did not look like anyone known to him.

He said that he had seen Missoula, Montana "Times" that the hijacker wrote a latter from Oakdale, California to one of the Reno, Nevada newspapers which said [REDACTED] He said this made him think of [REDACTED] as possibly the hijacker.

He noted that [REDACTED] was [REDACTED] from Portland, Oregon to Salem, Oregon the last time he had heard, [REDACTED]. He denied any further knowledge of the crime and stated that he himself knew nothing about parachute jumping, the crime or activities of [REDACTED] [REDACTED]. He stated he also knows nothing of anyone parachute jumping near [REDACTED], Montana November 25, 1971, or any other time.

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DB Cooper-41330

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b6 b7C

DN 164-90 3

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Description of [REDACTED] as obtained through observation and interview is as follows:

Race White Sex Male Nationality American Date of birth [REDACTED] Height Claims 5'10" (appears 5'8") Weight Claims 200 (appears heavier) Hair Brown Eyes Brown Characteristics Pot belly, round face rough speaking voice unkept appearance

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b6 b7C

b6 b7C

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DB Cooper-41331