Portland to Director and Seattle re Himmelsbach interview with Norman Gorin of CBS

Document date 22 May 1978

Part 96pages 151–1533 pagesDB Cooper-43064–43066

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Document: Teletype Portland to Director and Seattle re Himmelsbach interview with Norman Gorin of CBS
Id: Cooper-Part-96:151-153
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 96 pp. 151–153 (DB Cooper-43064–43066), Teletype, dated 22 May 1978, serial PD 164-41-1696 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-96%3A151-153

FD-36 (Rev. 3-24-77)

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TRANSMIT VIA: PRECEDENCE: CLASSIFICATION: [X] Teletype [X] Immediate [ ] TOP SECRET [ ] Facsimile [ ] Priority [ ] SECRET [ ] ——— [ ] Routine [ ] CONFIDENTIAL [ ] EFTO [X] CLEAR UNCLAS Date ———

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FM PORTLAND (164-41)(P)

TO DIRECTOR (164-2111)(IMMEDIATE) [REDACTED] SEATTLE (164-81)(ROUTINE) [REDACTED]

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NORJAK

RE TELCALL OF SUPERVISOR [REDACTED], FBIHQ, TO ASAC [REDACTED], [REDACTED], PORTLAND, MAY 22, 1978.

ON MAY 4, 1978, NORMAN GORIN, REPRESENTING MIKE WALLACE OF CBS "SIXTY MINUTES," APPEARED AT THE PORTLAND DIVISION IN CONNECTION WITH CAPTIONED MATTER. ARRANGEMENTS FOR MR. GORIN'S APPEARANCE FOLLOWED A SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN MIKE WALLACE, SUPER- VISOR [REDACTED], FBIHQ, AND SAC, PORTLAND AND SAC, SEATTLE, REGARDING "SIXTY MINUTES'" DESIRE TO GET INFORMATION IN THIS CASE. THE BUREAU IS WELL AWARE OF "SIXTY MINUTES'" ATTEMPT TO VERIFY A SPECULATIVE SUSPECT IN THIS CASE BY THE NAME OF BRYANT COFFELT. IN THE INITIAL DISCUSSION IT WAS CONCLUDED THAT PORTLAND WOULD

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AGB:DJL (1) 164-41 - 1696

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Approved ——— Transmitted SEE ABOVE P (Number) (Time) DB Cooper-43064

FD-36 (Rev. 3-24-77)

FBI

TRANSMIT VIA: PRECEDENCE: CLASSIFICATION: ☐ Teletype ☐ Immediate ☐ TOP SECRET (struck through) ☐ Facsimile ☐ Priority ☐ SECRET (struck through) ☐ ___________ ☐ Routine ☐ CONFIDENTIAL (struck through) ☐ E F T O (struck through) ☐ CLEAR Date ___________

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PAGE TWO PD 164-41 UNCLAS

NOT DISCUSS THIS MATTER WITH WALLACE OR "SIXTY MINUTES" AND WALLACE WAS SO ADVISED. SAC, PORTLAND, WAS SUBSEQUENTLY REQUESTED BY SUPERVISOR [REDACTED] TO MAKE SA RALPH P. HIMMELSBACH AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS BACKGROUND INFORMATION WITH MIKE WALLACE OR HIS REPRESENT- ATIVE, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT IT WOULD NOT BE ON FILM OR BE A RECORDED INTERVIEW.

MR. GORIN ARRIVED PORTLAND ON MAY 4, 1978. A BRIEF DISCUSSION WAS HAD BETWEEN MR. GORIN AND SAC REGARDING THE GROUND RULES FOR THIS INTERVIEW WITH SA HIMMELSBACH, AFTER WHICH SA HIMMELSBACH WAS MADE AVAILABLE FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF PROVIDING BACKGROUND INFORMATION IN THIS CASE TO MR. GORIN. SAC WAS PRESENT DURING THE MAJORITY OF THE INTERVIEW, WHICH DID IN FACT CONCERN ITSELF WITH BACKGROUND DATA AS TO TIMES, PLACES AND EVENTS. DURING THE COURSE OF THIS INTERVIEW NO NAMES OF PERSONS, PARTICULARLY WITNESSES OR SUSPECTS, WERE DISCUSSED. IT WAS CLEARLY POINTED OUT TO MR. GORIN THAT THE IDENTITIES OF PILOTS, STEWARDESSES AND PASSENGERS WOULD NOT BE DISCUSSED. EVEN THOUGH MANY OF THE NAMES HAVE APPEARED IN THE PRINTED MEDIUM, SUCH INFORMATION WOULD NOT EMANATE FROM THE FBI. MR. GORIN ATTEMPTED TO MAKE INQUIRIES CONCERNING SUSPECTS, AND IT WAS SPECIFICALLY POINTED OUT TO HIM THIS INFORMATION WOULD

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Approved: ___________ Transmitted ___________ Per ___________ (Number) (Time) FBI/DOJ DB Cooper-43065

FD-36 (Rev. 3-24-77)

FBI

TRANSMIT VIA: PRECEDENCE: CLASSIFICATION: ☐ Teletype ☐ Immediate ☐ TOP SECRET ☐ Facsimile ☐ Priority ☐ SECRET ☐ ___________ ☐ Routine ☐ CONFIDENTIAL ☐ EFTO ☐ CLEAR Date ___________

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PAGE TWO PD 164-41 UNCLAS

NOT BE DISCUSSED, NOR WOULD THE BASIS UPON WHICH ANY PARTICULAR SUSPECT WAS CONSIDERED BE DISCUSSED. IN FACT, DURING THE COURSE OF THIS INTERVIEW, NO SUCH DISCUSSION DID OCCUR AND SPECIFICALLY, THE NAME OF COFFELT WAS NOT UTTERED BY THE SAC, SA HIMMELSBACH OR MR. GORIN.

THE INFORMATION FURNISHED MR. GORIN DID NOT EXCEED THAT WHICH HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN RELEASED TO THE MEDIA, THE SUBSTANCE OF WHICH IS WELL KNOWN TO THE BUREAU, AND SPECIFICALLY, IT DID NOT EXCEED THAT INFORMATION WHICH IS CONTAINED IN THE ALLEN LANSBURG PRODUCTIONS (FREE LANCE) TELEVISION DOCUMENTARY FILMED IN FEBRUARY, 1977. BT

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Approved: _______________ Transmitted _______________ Per _______________ (Number) (Time) FBI/DOJ DB Cooper-43066

Serials: 164-2111, PD 164-41, PD 164-41-1696, SE 164-81