Interview of witness re male who rented unfurnished house resembling Cooper composite
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Interview re Ben Leibsen renting unfurnished house in Washington
Interviewed 30 November 1971Dictated 30 November 1971Transcribed 6 December 1971
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Id: Cooper-Part-99:357-358
Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-99:357-358 Document: FD-302 interview re Ben Leibsen renting unfurnished house in Washington Id: Cooper-Part-99:357-358 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-99%3A357-358 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 99 pp. 357–358 (DB Cooper-44891–44892), FD-302 interview, interviewed 30 Nov 1971 — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-99%3A357-358
FD-302 (REV. 11-27-70)
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
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Date of transcription 12/6/71
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[REDACTED], Washington, advised that a white male who identified himself as BEN LEIBSEN, 961 Armory Lane, Carson City, Nevada, rented a house [REDACTED] on September 27, 1971, which was located on [REDACTED] [REDACTED] This house was unfurnished and [REDACTED] advised he is sure this man never lived in the house for at no time did he ever see him bring anything to the house except a few personal possessions in a late model white Datsun stationwagon. The rent of $75 a month in advance was paid by check, number 176, dated September 27, 1971, drawn on the First National Bank of Nevada, Carson City, Nevada, with a transit number of 94-57. This check had the name of BEN LEIBSEN on its face but had no address. [REDACTED] advised another check in the amount of $75 was paid for the second month rent in advance on October 28, 1971.
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[REDACTED] recalled that this man and a white woman who was with him moved the few belongings they had in the house from the place on November 28, 1971. [REDACTED] also advised that this man told him that he had [REDACTED] but at no time did [REDACTED] in or about the property and further the man told him several untruths for some unexplained reason, one of which he recalled was that the [REDACTED] were returning to Carson City, Nevada, and the next day he observed that the woman was still there.
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He further recalled that this man told him he was unemployed and in reply to questions by [REDACTED] whether he could meet the rent of $75 per month, he stated he could. He further advised that no mention was made of any source of income of this individual but the two checks were pro- cessed for collection with no problem.
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[REDACTED] advised that he observed this man moving his possessions from the house on November 28, 1971, and is sure that there was no furniture in the boxes. Further, he stated that he is sure the man never lived in the house and has no reason to offer for his having rented it for two months.
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Interviewed on 11/30/71 at Longview, Washington File # SE 164-81 -[guess: 7895]
by SA THOMAS J. MANNING:bfr Date dictated 11/30/71
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DB COOPER-44891
2 SE 164-81
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[REDACTED] advised that he had observed a composite drawing of the individual involved in the hijacking of a Northwest Airlines flight on November 24, 1971, and can say that the man who rented the property has some resemblance to the composite except that this man had more hair than the hair shown on the composite picture. He also stated that he would say the man looked Latin to him and had what he, [REDACTED] thought could have been a midwest accent. He further pointed out that when this man moved out on November 28, 1971, he appeared to be in no great rush and was not unduly anxious to get away from the area.
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[REDACTED] described the man as follows:
Sex: Male Race: White Age: 45 Height: 6' Weight: 170 pounds Complexion: Dark Hair: Sandy dark hair
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[REDACTED] described the woman as follows:
Sex: Female Race: White Build: Slight Complexion: Dark Height: 5' 5" Weight: 120 pounds Characteristic: Could be looked upon as of Latin extraction but had no accent of any type.
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DB COOPER-44892
Serials: SE 164-81