Part 121, page 47

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62 (REV. 11-27-70)

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

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Date of transcription 8/5/77

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WILLIAM RATACZAK was interviewed at his residence and supplied the following information:

He spoke to DIRK SUMMERS and SUMMERS told him that he worked for Universal Studios and a movie or television series was going to be made concerning the hijacking. SUMMERS told him that he had permission from a West Coast FBI Office, FBI Headquarters in Washington, and GRIFFIN BELL. He cannot recall the exact words SUMMERS used during the conversation. SUMMERS was very positive and straight forward and he felt that SUMMERS could have been on the level. He also thought that the FBI would have made an announcement had the hijacking been solved.

SUMMERS also told him that he knew who D.B. COOPER really was but did not say who. SUMMERS stated to him that COOPER had a long police record and had spent time in jail with JAMES EARL RAY. RATACZAK stated COOPER's record was four pages long and single spaced and that this record was an FBI record. He feels that SUMMERS was trying to impress him with this information on COOPER.

SUMMERS also told him that COOPER did not jump out of the airplane where they thought he had. RATACZAK discounts this because of the tests which were conducted using the airplane.

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He cannot recall who had told him that [REDACTED]. He did not give the fact of [REDACTED] much importance. He had no basis or fact of making any statements that possibly [REDACTED] SUMMERS any FBI files or information. This was pure speculation on his part.

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It appeared to him that SUMMERS had information on the hijacking, none of which was specific. He feels all the information SUMMERS had could have been obtained through newspaper and magazine articles. He instructed SUMMERS that he had notes on the hijacking and SUMMERS told him that he would like to compare the information they had. SUMMERS said that he had a file and RATACZAK assumed he was talking about an FBI file at the time. He has thought more about the conversation with [continues on next page]

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Interviewed on 8/1/77 at Shorewood, Minnesota File # MP 164-73

by SA [REDACTED] :sks Date dictated 8/4/77

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DB COOPER-55544

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