Part 60, page 146

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being watched, he felt that you could have certainly sent someone else in your place to speak with them. I told them that we had contemplated this move but figured that it would not pay off insofar as they were both charged with criminal counts and would not discuss anything with us. They did state, however, that if I would have simply contacted them. when I arrived in town that they would have told me every- thing if I simply would have contacted them first. I then pointed out to [REDACTED] that there were many inconsistencies in [REDACTED] that he had given to you. He said that you had gotten [REDACTED] and I said that I could prove that his background did not match the [REDACTED] comment was, "so what".

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[REDACTED] then suggested that I should read the July issue of "Moneysworth Magazine" written by Ginsberg. He said there was an article in there about honesty and then went on relating something to the fact that every time a police- man makes an arrest we all feel more honest. He evidently was trying to make some sort of philosophical comment about honesty and lying but I'm sure that [REDACTED] could take his own advice.

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[REDACTED] said that his reputation was at stake and that his family had been in the area for [REDACTED]

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They also said that I was going around town saying things. [REDACTED] claimed that I said that I was [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and I said that was not the case. I said that I had stated that I was [REDACTED] and that I had made inquiries about [REDACTED] in the [REDACTED] [REDACTED] I also told [REDACTED] that I had gotten all of my information from the man at the bank who [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and who [REDACTED] At that point [REDACTED] asked, [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] said, "Oh, you know that [REDACTED] asked if I knew that the case was being litigated, I said yes, that I understood that it was suppose to be in liti- gation at the present time.

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They said that they had numerous reports on where I had been and what I had been doing. They said they knew that I was talking with the [REDACTED] that I had been

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