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FD-302a (Rev. 11-15-83)

213A-IP-28 PX 213A-31

Continuation of FD-302 of ARTHUR B. DERHAM ,On 09/14/89 ,Page 2

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heavy duty equipment. This training on heavy duty equipment encompassed a four week program in which student would spend one week on a specific type of heavy duty equipment. They would begin the week by spending one day in the classroom and the remaining portion of the week with hands on the equipment. Thus, upon completion of the four week course, each student will have performed one week on one of four pieces of heavy duty equipment. This could be anything from a bulldozer to a grader. DERHAM advised that with this training regimen, students would never receive more than a total of eight hours per piece of equipment. He felt that this much training did not even qualify the student to be hired by any of the local heavy duty equipment operators within the Phoenix Metropolitan area.

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DERHAM advised that student would generally receive a check for living expense costs for the first two weeks of their stay at the school. Subsequent to this, students would receive an additional check from STS for their living expenses during the next two weeks of their stay. DERHAM stated that once students received the second check, STS did not care whether the students departed the school or decided to stay and finish out their course of study while in the Phoenix area. He felt that once the second check was forwarded to the student, STS basically washed their hands of all responsibilities towards the students.

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DERHAM advised that he and his staff were told that they were not to fraternize with the student attending the school at any time during their stay. Additionally, they were told that they were not even to speak to the student unless it was strictly course related. He found this to be quite embarrassing on numerous occasions, due to the many questions generated by the students attending the course. Even though DERHAM was not allowed to converse with the students openly, he was able to get the feeling from most of the student that they believed they would be gainfully employed upon completion of this course, at a wage of approximately $18.00 to $20.00 per hour, and they would have no difficulty in finding employment once they had completed the course. He did not know where the students had acquired this type of opinion, but he was sure that it was not acquired within the heavy duty equipment site here in Apache Junction. In DERHAM's opinion, most of the students that attended this course would not even be qualified to get any type of a job within the heavy duty equipment area upon completion of this course due to the very limited number of hours available to each student upon the machinery.

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DB Cooper-33561