Transcript of ground control / NW 305 communications (pages 2-8)

2 (GC): Okay, fine. (GC): Okay, you want to give him a green light (P): 305 ground is that truck pumping alright? (GC): Affirm (GC)(?): [REDACTED] ground (GC): Yeh [REDACTED] go ahead (GC) 305 on also? (GC): Affirmative (GC): Ground [REDACTED] go ahead (P): Guess the guy's in the back of the airplane (GC) 305 ground (GC): 305 is the individual in the back; he can't hear. (GC): What did he say (GC) You can have all the conversation you want. (GC): Okay. (GC): 305 did you hear the message. FFA from Washington, D.C., from the FFA Chief Psychiatrist, he believes the second parachute is for the stewardess to use with him to go out, and after he leaves the airplane will be blown up. (P): [REDACTED] I kind of figured someway to get her out, I'd kind of like to get her out we're ready to go. (CG): Okay, you got the message. That's what we needed to forward. (CG): BILL, this is AL here (CG): Yeh. (CG): Have you been able to get in the back end of that cockpit or won't he come out?

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[guess: 1st document or invoice] [illegible partial stamp]

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(P): He doesn't want any of us in the aisle. The only one he negotiates with is the stewardess and he doesn't want anybody beyond that first curtain. We've never left the cockpit.

(GC): Did you get the maps I sent out there?

(P): Yeh, we got all that stuff.

(GC): And you got that deal from Boeing on how to get out of there?

(P): Yeh we got that.

(GC): He's got that himself maybe. I don't know whatever you elect to do.

(P): We're in a rut. Well he seems to want those back steps down. Well we've kind of convinced him now we can't take off with them in ground position, but he want them down when we get airborne, fly with it down and then so he can bail out at any time, I don't know.

(GC): What's he want down?

(P): Back steps.

(GC): No, no you can't do that.

(P): We're talking to [redacted] and he says we got a plan how we can get them down.

(GC): No, I don't know, maybe [redacted] does.

(P): We're going to have to go unpressurized and of course he wants the rear down for some reason and he wants the flaps down to 15, I think. He seems to know a little bit about an airplane. He says we'll have to go unpressurized, though; he seems to - I don't know where he picked that up. He said we'll have to go below 10,000. If we could get the gal out, well we

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[guess: Plot] He wants to [guess: Statement] down to the [guess: Steps] [guess: I think] [illegible]

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(GC): Now, [redacted] if you're coming across you're clear to cross now. (GC): Okay, we're coming across. (GC): Coming across, overhead downstairs? He's starting now and we're going to have to show him direct Portland. (GC): Okay. (GC): On his planning does it look like he's going north? (GC): No, he's going south, we'll get him on south (unintel). (CG): Northwest 305 I hear you on company frequency. Taxi on six right, you can do a one eighty and taxi back, and refer to Portland Vector 23, maintain 10,000 and remain in this freak until advised and transfer under 3100 until the other codes advises. Out. (P): Okay, Northwest 305 will taxi back up three four left and will clear to Portland by Vector 23, maintain 10,000 and 3100, transponder code. (GC): That's correct and checking the maps all the way down, and 305 checking on the maps Vector 23 all the way south the highest mountain is 10,000 that looks about like the best to get you down and that goes all the way into Sacramento at 10 or less. (P): Okay, fine. We've advised the company that this may be the best approach to go. We haven't really had time to check it out but of course somewhere along the coast would be best. Our company indicates to us that, well you probably heard PAUL saying that it wouldn't add appreciably to our Reno way by going doglegging it. (GC): Yeh, Vector 23 you're over the valley most of the way. It's populated most of the way so it might be Vector 23 all the - 188 -

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[guess: Seattle] (Refer to Seattle Vector 23 [guess: Rte] " [illegible])

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8 (GC): way down. It looks to us like the best. (P): Okay, fine that's alright as long as we got the (UNINTEL) that's all that matters. (GC): And 305 ground if enroute there's any problem on communications why don't we just clear you to Sacramento that looks a little bit longer than Reno not much. Let's clear you to Sacramento to maintain 10,000. (P): Okay, clear to Sacramento and maintain 10,000. How about re-routing Vector 23. We haven't got the maps out here and haven't really had a chance to look at it. (GC): That'll be Vector 23 all the way to Sacramento. (P): Okay, that's easy enough and ground no force on 305 be advised that I will be trying to make her up to altitude any way we can here now before going the, if possible the said or any other restrictions that may be imposed upon us. (GC): No restrictions at all. You fly in the best way you can do her. (P): Thank-you. (GC): And 305 there'll be people with you all the way down. (P): I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks alot. (GC): And that goes for many others of us too. (GC): Roger. (GC): Hello Northwest 305 when departure sends you over to center, the frequency of center will be 121.2. (P): Okay, the Seattle center will be 121.2 Thank-you sir. (GC): That's correct. (GC): The report is seven here altimeters can be missed ... at least 4,000 feet if it would help you at all. - 189 -

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