Interview re Alvin Curtis Hartley's residence and activities in Grand Junction
Interviewed 23 January 1973Transcribed 6 February 1973
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Id: Cooper-Part-60:247-251
Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-60:247-251 Document: FD-302 interview re Alvin Curtis Hartley's residence and activities in Grand Junction Id: Cooper-Part-60:247-251 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-60%3A247-251 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 60 pp. 247–251 (DB Cooper-24927–24931), FD-302 interview, interviewed 23 Jan 1973 — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-60%3A247-251
FD-302 (REV. 11-27-70)
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date of transcription 2/6/73
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[REDACTED] disclosed that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and that [REDACTED] had resided at [REDACTED] Grand Junction, Colorado, until approximately July or August, 1972, when he [REDACTED] Grand Junction, Colorado. At that time, [REDACTED] A. C. HARTLEY [REDACTED] [REDACTED] HARTLEY.
[REDACTED] since July of 1972, has been using the name [REDACTED] and that long distance telephone calls have been placed to the [REDACTED] residence, Grand Junction, Colorado, and that the persons placing the call have requested to talk to a person called [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] viewed the photograph of ALVIN CURTIS HARTLEY and disclosed that HARTLEY [REDACTED] [REDACTED] HARTLEY had accompanied HARTLEY to visit [REDACTED] in Grand Junction, and during the visit HARTLEY, commonly called "A.C." was so loud an obnoxious that he was never allowed into the [REDACTED] again.
[REDACTED] disclosed at that time he had ascertained [REDACTED] Grand Junction, Colorado, [REDACTED] HARTLEY [REDACTED] [REDACTED] which supposedly was taken on a trial basis out of Phoenix or Tucson, Arizona, and was never returned. [REDACTED] stated at that time, the firm in Tucson or Phoenix, name of which he could recall, had made a long distance telephone call inquiring about [REDACTED] However, [REDACTED] further explained that he did not know if HARTLEY had taken the [REDACTED] back to Tucson or Phoenix or if he had hidden it somewhere unknown.
[REDACTED] explained that to his knowledge, HARTLEY presently [REDACTED] of Rangely, Colorado, and that [REDACTED] in Rangely, and [REDACTED] is employed at the hospital, Rangely, Colorado. [REDACTED] described [REDACTED] as a person of good reputation in the Rangely, Colorado area and [REDACTED]
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Interviewed on 1/23/73 Grand Junction, Colorado SA [REDACTED] bjc by [REDACTED] Date dictated [REDACTED]
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SEARCHED___INDEXED___ SERIALIZED___FILED___ [stamp number partially illegible] 72 FEB 2 6 1973 FBI — LOS ANGELES
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DB Cooper-24927
DN 87-15972 2
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[REDACTED] further explained that [REDACTED] Grand Junction, Colorado, a [REDACTED] Rangely, Colorado, and [REDACTED].
[REDACTED] stated that [REDACTED] HARTLEY [REDACTED] who resides on [REDACTED] Grand Junction, Colorado, telephone [REDACTED] and that [REDACTED] had appeared at the [REDACTED] in July or August of 1972, in possession of a [REDACTED] and said "too bad you weren't with me on this one," and displayed the [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] further stated that he had heard through the grapevine that [REDACTED] had obtained the [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and that [REDACTED] had stated at one time "the guys were going to be after him, meaning [REDACTED] as he had [REDACTED] [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] also stated that [REDACTED] a Grand Junction [REDACTED] also knows HARTLEY and [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and HARTLEY at [REDACTED] Grand Junction, Colorado, in July and that several nights later, [REDACTED] had returned to the [REDACTED] to visit [REDACTED] and stated that those two men were "bums and not to mix with them."
[REDACTED] stated that [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] which was supposedly [REDACTED] of [REDACTED] of Rangely, Colorado. [REDACTED] has constantly asked [REDACTED] in regards to his [REDACTED] however, [REDACTED] disclosed that [REDACTED] and who resides in Rangely, Colorado, had physically taken [REDACTED] and had returned the [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] stated at one time. [REDACTED] had approached [REDACTED] however, [REDACTED] had rejected the whole idea.
[REDACTED] Denver, Colorado, had been approached by HARTLEY and [REDACTED] [REDACTED] HARTLEY at the time of contact with the [REDACTED] stated that he had approximately [REDACTED] which HARTLEY did not
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DB Cooper-24928
DN 87-15972 3
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elaborate on.
[REDACTED] stated that at one time, [REDACTED] [REDACTED] at the Bar-X Motel, Grand Junction, Colorado, on or about November of 1972, and at that particular time, [REDACTED] had rented a vehicle from Budget Rent-A-Car, Grand Junction, Colorado. The Mesa County Sheriff's Office had contacted [REDACTED] at the [REDACTED] Grand Junction, Colorado, concerning the rental of the vehicle by [REDACTED] and had disclosed that [REDACTED] had dropped the vehicle at the Grand Junction Airport and [REDACTED] rental of the vehicle.
[REDACTED] disclosed that [REDACTED] maiden name was [REDACTED] resides in Rangely, Colorado, and [REDACTED] recently suffered a heart attack and was taken from the Rangely, Colorado home to the Vernal, Utah, Hospital for treatment. Inasmuch as [REDACTED] she would not leave her place of residence nor any other place where she was staying in order to [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] advised that [REDACTED] of Reno or Sparks, Nevada, [REDACTED] HARTLEY on previous occasions and a [REDACTED] has also stated that a woman in Las Vegas, who [REDACTED] the Air Freight Firm [REDACTED] HARTLEY.
[REDACTED] disclosed that he had also received a long distance telephone call from an unknown male in Idaho, and that this person had requested a conversation with [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] further advised that he had talked with [REDACTED] after [REDACTED] HARTLEY and [REDACTED] HARTLEY's [REDACTED] to which [REDACTED] replied "I've seen all of the certificates I need to see."
[REDACTED] advised that he could not recall nor has he ascertained if HARTLEY [REDACTED] [REDACTED] however, [REDACTED] Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah, and [REDACTED] [REDACTED] HARTLEY had in his possession last summer.
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DB Cooper-24929
DN 87-15972 4
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[REDACTED] explained that [REDACTED] residing at Palisade, Colorado, [REDACTED] in Alaska, and at one time [REDACTED] HARTLEY. [REDACTED] owns two automobiles, a Mercury and a Cadillac, one of which had Alaska License plates. [REDACTED] has stated to [REDACTED] that [REDACTED] is [REDACTED] HARTLEY [REDACTED] was described as a person always out to make a fast buck and he could be the biggest liar in the world.
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[REDACTED] advised that [REDACTED] HARTLEY [REDACTED] Meeker, Colorado, last Tuesday, January 16, 1973, and that [REDACTED] HARTLEY [REDACTED] [REDACTED] RYAN Construction Company of Golden, Colorado. RYAN Construction Company was to purchase Drake Construction Company of Golden, Colorado, and offered a new firm to HARTLEY to manage. This deal however, was not consummated.
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[REDACTED] advised that while residing in Grand Junction, Colorado, HARTLEY has mostly done business at a 76 Station on Fifth and Grant and that HARTLEY has also stayed at the Ramada Inn on several occasions using fictitious names. The only name recalled by [REDACTED] was "A.C."
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[REDACTED] disclosed that on his previous telephone number [REDACTED] HARTLEY ran up a telephone bill amounting to [REDACTED] The telephone number was subsequently changed and [REDACTED] and is still attempting to make charges to his present number.
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[REDACTED] further explained that at one time he had [REDACTED] is now mysteriously missing; however, [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] had disclosed that she had seen the [REDACTED] on one occasion as HARTLEY [REDACTED] [REDACTED]
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[REDACTED] stated that he was under the impression that HARTLEY had gone under the name of RONSON or JOHNSON at the Bar-X Motel, Grand Junction, Colorado, and that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] Sheriff of Mesa County, that HARTLEY [REDACTED] in the Grand Junction area. [REDACTED] at one time had used a Budget Rent-A-Car, while staying with [REDACTED] at the Bar-X Motel at Grand Junction, Colorado.
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DB Cooper-24930
DN 87-15972 5
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[REDACTED] advised at one time [REDACTED] had given [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] [REDACTED] in Colorado Springs, Colorado, however, [REDACTED] stated that he did not know if the deal was completed.
[REDACTED] described HARTLEY as a white male, age 50 years, 6', gray hair, salt and pepper and gray goatee, wears sunglasses.
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DB Cooper-24931
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b6 b7C
Serials: DN 87-15972