Interview at Dallas re telephone calls from a NORJAK suspect
This copy: Part 72 pp. 279–281Also filed at Part 37 pp. 187–190 (primary)
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Interview of Dallas subject re telephone call from acquaintance and Cooper sketch comparison
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Document date 1 March 1976
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Subject: Cooper Files: Cooper-Part-72:279-281 Document: FD-302 interview of Dallas subject re telephone call from acquaintance and Cooper sketch comparison Id: Cooper-Part-72:279-281 Page: https://cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-72%3A279-281 What is wrong (title, date, type, which pages belong together, copies)? What does the scan show?
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 72 pp. 279–281 (DB Cooper-31179–31181), FD-302 interview, dated 1 Mar 1976 — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-72%3A279-281
DL 164-191 SE 164-81
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mentioned that [REDACTED] and [REDACTED]
When [REDACTED] got on the line and realized he was talking to [REDACTED], he was very much surprised to hear from [REDACTED] and he could tell that [REDACTED] had been drinking. [REDACTED] stated, to the best of his recollection, the conversation went something like this:
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[REDACTED] stated he was very much surprised and confused by receiving this telephone call from a man he had not seen at all or corresponded with for a period of fifteen years. He was very much surprised about the subject matter of the telephone conversation and had no idea whether [REDACTED] was drunk and was making an attempt to joke with him or whether there was any substance to what [REDACTED] was telling him.
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DB Cooper-31179
DL 164-191 SE 164-81
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He discussed these circumstances at length with [REDACTED] but since [REDACTED], she did not know how to accept this information and how to react to it. The following morning, he told [REDACTED] about the telephone call from Seattle and [REDACTED] suggested that he make the information available to the Dallas FBI Office just in case there might be something to it.
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[REDACTED] stated that [REDACTED] is of German background. He does not know if [REDACTED] had any military service. He does not know whether [REDACTED] can fly an airplane, nor does he know whether [REDACTED] has ever had any training in parachuting out of aircraft. [REDACTED] stated that actually, he has no way of knowing whether any of this conversation from [REDACTED] has any substance. He commented that [REDACTED] used to drink pretty regularly and in these fifteen years, it is possible that [REDACTED] has become an alcoholic. He does not recall [REDACTED] as being a practical joker.
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One night around 9:00 PM about three weeks ago, [REDACTED] again called the [REDACTED] residence and [REDACTED] answered the phone and informed him [REDACTED] that it was the same fellow calling from Seattle again. [REDACTED] got on the phone and, again, it seemed obvious to him that [REDACTED] had been drinking. This second conversation with [REDACTED] went something like this, to the best of his recollection:
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DB Cooper-31180
DL 164-191 SE 164-81 --
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[REDACTED] stated [REDACTED] then said something about calling again in two weeks or about being here (meaning Dallas) in two weeks. [REDACTED] repeated that if he were at home, he could be reached at his telephone number. At this point, [REDACTED] said goodnight.
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During this interview, [REDACTED] was shown the artist's conception of the unknown subject also known as DAN COOPER, who hijacked Northwest Airlines Flight 350 between Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington, on November 24, 1971. [REDACTED] stated, "It's hard to believe how much the artist's conception of COOPER resembles [REDACTED]." [REDACTED] commented that the forehead, hairline and hair style very much resembles [REDACTED]. [REDACTED] expressed his opinion that the ears on the artist's conception of COOPER strike him as being larger than [REDACTED] ears and the nose appears to be different from [REDACTED] but [REDACTED] commented that it has been fifteen years since he saw [REDACTED] and his recollection may be faulty.
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[REDACTED] stated he believes he had discussed everything that had taken place between himself and [REDACTED] in the two telephone conversations.
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DB Cooper-31181
Serials: DL 164-191, SE 164-81