SA to SAC Seattle re NORJACK suspect checks, Everett/Snohomish records and Lynnwood source interviews
Document date 12 July 1982
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FBI 164-81, Vault Part 47 pp. 4–8 (DB Cooper-19263–19267), Memo, dated 12 Jul 1982, serial SE 164-81-8691 (as read from the transcript) — cooper.theunsolved.net/documents/Cooper-Part-47%3A004-008
Memorandum
To : SAC, SEATTLE (164A-81) (P) Date 7/12/82
From : SA [REDACTED]
Subject : NORJACK OO: SEATTLE
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Re memo of SA [REDACTED] dated 1/11/82.
A review of the records of the Everett, Washington, Police Department and Snohomish County Sheriff's Office, regarding [REDACTED] reflected no arrest record other than a [REDACTED] [REDACTED] from Everett, Washington, Police Department. No information could be obtained which would indicate that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] attorney, [REDACTED] a respected attorney in the Everett, Washington, area, feels very strongly that [REDACTED] Contacts made with other individuals, as set forth below, failed to reflect any inforamtion to indicate that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] It appears very unlikely that [REDACTED] could have been the individual involved in captioned matter as indicated by [REDACTED] Investigation set forth below tends to indicate that this would not be possible, however, [REDACTED] appears to sincerely believe [REDACTED] is the individual commonly referred to as D.B. Copper. Some of the facts related by [REDACTED] to support his belief were shown to not be true and when confronted with this, [REDACTED] appeared to want to discredit the information, refuting what he believes to be actual facts.
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Records of the Everett, Washington, Police Department, and Snohomish County Sheriff's Office, contained no record identifiable with [REDACTED] The records of both agencies do reflect an extensive arrest record for [REDACTED] also known as [REDACTED] [REDACTED] date of birth [REDACTED] The arrest record dates back to [REDACTED] and shows arrests as recently as [REDACTED] None of the arrests resulted in any type of felony prosecution and most re- late to various [REDACTED] [REDACTED] These records do reflect that [REDACTED] was residing at [REDACTED] Edmonds, Washington, through December, 1974. This would tend to indicate that [REDACTED] was in the area for sometime after captioned incident.
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Investigation determined that [REDACTED], was a business is no longer in existence. [REDACTED] in the Snohomish County, Washington, area during [REDACTED] The company
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[REDACTED] in the area and went out of business during 1970, when the housing market fell apart in this area.
On 4/13/82. [REDACTED] Lynnwood, Washington, telephone number [REDACTED] advised that his company provided the financial backing for [REDACTED] a company [REDACTED] [REDACTED] noted that he had been contacted several years ago by someone from the FBI who was at that time investigating whether or not [REDACTED] was possibly identical to the individual commonly referred to as D.B. Copper. [REDACTED] could not recall who from the FBI had contacted him regarding this matter, but assumed that the FBI had decided that [REDACTED] was not identical to D.B. Copper.
[REDACTED] advised that [REDACTED] fore- closed on [REDACTED] when [REDACTED] went out of business. [REDACTED] advised that he had not seen [REDACTED] since shortly after that time. He advised that he believes [REDACTED] stayed in the Snohomish County, Washington, area working and he believes [REDACTED] went to work for Eastside Garbage Disposal in Bellevue, Washington, as a [REDACTED] He advised that he does not know long [REDACTED] worked for Eastside Disposal but heard that [REDACTED] had thereafter returned to California where he was working in some unknown capacity. [REDACTED] advised that he was aware that [REDACTED] had come to the State of Washington sometime during 1968, from California.
[REDACTED] advised that he knew [REDACTED] very well. He was shown a composite of the individual known as D.B. Copper and he advised that the composite, in his opinion, did not look anything like [REDACTED] described [REDACTED] as being tall and slim, at least 6'0" and more likely 6'2" to 6'3". [REDACTED] advised that the last known address he had for [REDACTED] was [REDACTED] Kirkland, Washington. He advised that [REDACTED] in Bellevue, Washington, represented [REDACTED] He advised that [REDACTED] had a certified public accounting firm handling the accounting business for [REDACTED] He advised that the firm was out of San Diego, California, and the [REDACTED] doing the work was [REDACTED] He advised that [REDACTED] had a bank account at Newport Balboa Savings and Loan, Babloa, California. He had a life insurance policy with Empire Life Insurance Company and was supposedly retired from the United States Coast Guard. He advised that [REDACTED] name is [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] advised that he has no reason to believe [REDACTED] would possibly be the individual known as D.B. Copper. He advised that he was not aware that [REDACTED] was taking any type of parachute or skydiving lessons. He advised that he had heard, from unknown source, that [REDACTED] had formerly been a pilot with
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Catalina Airlines somewhere in California.
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[REDACTED] Snohomish Airport, Snohomish, Washington, was contacted and he advised that he has been in business since [REDACTED] He advised that he is [REDACTED] Snohomish County, Washington. [REDACTED] advised that he has records pertaining to all students who have taken skydiving or parachuting lessons through his club since [REDACTED] A review of these records showed no indication that anyone by the name of [REDACTED] had ever taken any type of lessons. [REDACTED] advised that he is familiar with a great many of his students and cannot ever recall anyone by the name of [REDACTED] being a student. He advised that he is certain this individual did not take lessons under the name of [REDACTED] or his records would have reflected this.
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[REDACTED] Everett, Washington, tele- phone number [REDACTED] was contacted and he advised that during [REDACTED] in the Everett, Washington, area. He advised that [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] and he knew both of them fairly well. He advised that [REDACTED] went out of business during 1971, and he has not seen [REDACTED] since that time. He advised that he does not know where [REDACTED] is currently located but heard he had returned to California where he had originally came from. [REDACTED] advised that he was not aware that [REDACTED] may have taken parachute or sky- diving lessons. He advised that he does not recall ever asking [REDACTED] or anyone else why they were taking skydiving or jumping lessons. He advised he would not have done this because he had never heard this. He advised that he does not know why [REDACTED] would indicate that he had made such a comment or had such information. [REDACTED] advised that he does not have any- thing that would indicate [REDACTED] would possibly be D.B. Copper other than the fact that he did leave the Everett, Washington, area sometime around the time of the D.B. Copper incident. [REDACTED] was shown the composite drawings of the individual commonly referred to as D.B. Cooper and he advised that they did not look anything like [REDACTED] He noted that [REDACTED] was tall and of slender build. He advised that [REDACTED] was at least 6'1" and very likely a couple of inches taller.
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[REDACTED] Lake Stevens, Washington, tele- phone number [REDACTED] was contacted and he advised that he had no information which would lead him to believe that [REDACTED] could possibly be identical to the individual referred to as D.B. Cooper. He advised that during [REDACTED] he worked for [REDACTED] [REDACTED] in the Everett, Washington, area. He advised that [REDACTED] of this company and he knew [REDACTED] very well. He was shown a composite drawing of the individual referred to as D.B. Cooper and advised that he did not feel this looked anything like [REDACTED] He noted that [REDACTED] was very tall, over 6'0", and slender. He further advised that
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the type of stunt that D.B. Cooper was involved in did not seem to be the type of thing that [REDACTED] would get involved in. He advised that he had heard that [REDACTED] was a pilot in the military at one time, however, never heard anything about [REDACTED] being involved as a skydriver or parachute jumper. [REDACTED] advised that he does not recall any type of incident where someone had jumped out of an airplane over one of their job sites and he had con- versation in this regard with some of the other employees. He advised that he does not know why [REDACTED] would indicate that this incident had occurred. He advised that he has, in the past, heard [REDACTED] talk about the fact that [REDACTED] believed [REDACTED] [REDACTED] could be D.B. Copper. [REDACTED] advised that this type of talk had always simply went in one ear and out the other as he considered [REDACTED] to be the type of individual who liked to dream about things like that.
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On 4/30/82, [REDACTED] was recontacted and advised that the above individuals had been contacted and failed to support the story he had previously given to the FBI, and which is reflected in referenced communication. [REDACTED] seemed very frustrated when he received this information and indicated that he felt the individuals simply were not being cooperative for some reason, and insisted the information he had provided was true and accurate and that he knew an attorney who could verify some of this information. He advise that he would contact the attorney and then furnish the information to the FBI. [REDACTED] provided a letter, dated 5/3/82, wherein he indicates that [REDACTED] who had previously [REDACTED] [REDACTED] was present and overheard [REDACTED] talking about his plot in captioned matter. A copy of this letter is attached hereto.
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On 5/21/82, [REDACTED], Bellevue, Washington, telephone number [REDACTED] was contacted. [REDACTED] advised that he was the [REDACTED] advised that he has never overheard any conversations by anyone, including [REDACTED] planning an operation such as the one in captioned matter. He advised that he has never had any reason to suspect [REDACTED] of being involved in captioned matter. He advised that he has no reason to believe [REDACTED] could or would have been involved in captioned matter. He advised that he does not know [REDACTED] or why [REDACTED] would indicate that he was present when such a conversation took place. [REDACTED] advised that he does not know the current whereabouts of [REDACTED] but believes [REDACTED] returned to the San Diego, California, area after [REDACTED] went bankrupt in the State of Washington. He advised that [REDACTED] worked for a short period of time as a [REDACTED] for a garbage collection company in Bellevue, Washington, and thereafter, returned to California. He advised that he does not know exactly when this occurred, however, [REDACTED] went bankrupt during the early months of
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1971, and [REDACTED] probably would have returned to California sometime during the fall or winter of 1971. He advised that he does not know how to get in touch with [REDACTED] at this time but believes [REDACTED] is currently getting some type of retirement pension from the United States Coast Guard.
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In view of the above information, it appears very unlikely that [REDACTED] is the individual commonly referred to as D. B. Copper in captioned matter. No further investigation is being contacted in this matter at the Everett Resident Agency and any further leads to locate [REDACTED] such as through the United States Coast Guard, or to further discredit the information provided by [REDACTED] is being left to the discretion of the case agent at Seattle, Washington.
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Serials: SE 164-81, SE 164-81-8691