FAA transcription of Seattle Tower ground control communications with NW Flight 305, re-recording reel #4 (continuation)

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(GC): If we can get the people out of here well then we wouldn't have to worry about them

(GC): Well the people are all out in front there now. I think they're out of danger okay.

(GC): Alpha 2 go on.

(GC): This is Alpha 2 I'm approaching bravo concourse over

(GC): There's a fuel truck that just pulled up at the end of bravo there it looks like he's waiting you might hit him and find out if that's the one and if it is tell him when he goes to cross to go very slow and approach the aircraft slowly.

(GC): Ten-four

(GC): And do it by himself no other vehicle with him

(GC) Ten-Four

(P) [REDACTED] would you feel better with these passengers b6 per FAA the other side of one six, on the other side of the runway? b7C per FAA

(GC): Well I just saw a bus come out so wait a minute

(GC) No, we haven't ordered a bus yet [REDACTED] I can get one out here though.

(GC): Right away ground. 305 we've closed south 3500 feet of the other runway. You can tell those people to walk across the runway. We've got airplanes clear of it. They'll be not using that southend.

(P) (?): Tell them to walk straight toward the hangar there and then to the left they'll be okay, huh. We'll send a car down there to pick them up.

(GC): They can walk straight across and when they get on each side of the two white lines they can wait there and a bus will pick them up. We'll have something there to pick them up. - 167 -

8 (P): Okay (GC): You can start them over there now that runway is closed that southend. (GC): Will do (GC): This is Alpha 2 (GC): Alpha 2 go. (GC): I have the gas tank here and the driver is not certain of the direction. He will require an escort at least part of the way, is this possible, over. Okay part of the way. You can take him on the north- south taxiway down to that taxiway and then head him straight for the airplane and it's a straight shot over there and he can go straight out and you can drop him there. (GC): Okay, ten-four. (P) (?): And tell him to watch out for passengers. They're waling across there now in the dark. (GC): Ten-four. (P) (?): 305 did you count the fuel trucks on the way (P): Are you there [REDACTED] b6 per FAA b7C per FAA (GC): I hear you, we got the whole thing (P): Are you there [REDACTED] (P): Okay, we better advise that the passengers will be allowed to take a bus to the terminal and you can advise [REDACTED] if he doesn't know already that they should run fast back there and wait for ground transportation. (GC): We have word that they'll move across the double white line (UNINTEL) (P): That's okay. Okay, fine. Alright we're going to - 160 -

9 (P): leave you for a moment. (GC): Alpha 2 can you stop there now and direct him to go straight across to the aircraft? (GC): Okay, will do. (GC): Alpha 2 ground, Alpha 2 ground. (P): We're just getting out of your way here. (GC): Alpha 2 ground. (GC): This is Alpha 2. (GC): Why don't you wait right there. The passengers are arriving there off your nose. Why don't you get them all in a group and maybe flag down a bus and bring them back to the terminal. (GC): Greyhound this is Alpha 3. I have a bus here and we're going to take it over right next to one six left and they can board there. (GC): Alpha 3, and they're all there on the left side of the runway, or the east side. (GC): Alpha 3, we've closed the airport now. You can advise when you get all the passengers clear and then we'll start running a little more traffic. (GC): Alpha 3, Roger. (GC): And 305 the fuel truck is on its way now, coming up to you. (P)(?): (UNINTEL). (GC): Alpha 2, when the second fuel truck comes up will you stop him and just tell him to wait there until they need it. They don't want the second fuel truck over there. (GC): Alpha 3, out. - 169 -

10 (GC): Go ahead (GC): Could you stop that bus and tell him to turn off his blinkers. (GC): Yeh will do. (GC): Alpha 3 go on. (P): No, let's make it two, Alpha 2 go on. (GC): Two here. (GC): Can you verify when all the passengers are clear of that runway and when we can start using it again. Right now the airport's closed. (GC): Alright, ten-four. (GC): Ground control this is Alpha 2, all passengers are now loaded on the bus and enroute to Bravo 2. The runway is clear. (GC): Alpha 2 understand runway is clear and we're reopening then with one six left. (GC): That's affirmative, all the passengers. I have no knowledge of other vehicles on that side at this time. All passengers have left the area and is now boarded on the bus, over. (GC): Okay, looks like the fuel truck is going to head back toward us. (GC): Alpha 2 go on. (GC): Alpha 2 (GC): Did you stir up a second fuel truck for reserve. He wanted another one standing by in case he needs it. (GC): Ten-four. We have that information. I'll confirm that with the Northwest Operations, over.

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(GC): Why don't you dig it up and see if they can get it out there where if they need it they can get it right there. (P): Get that other one to stand by in case we have to use it. (GC): Ground this is Alpha 2. The third truck is standing by. Will be used on your request, over. (P): Alpha 2 check with operations and let us know now can we start using one six left as far as the ports concerned, are they opening in the runway again? (GC): Affirmative, you may use it now .(GC): Okay, we'll consider one six left open. (GC): That's affirmative. (GC): Don't know that's a 3-1 Victor. (GC): 3-1 Victor turn off the strobes and your rotating beacon and contact Tower 919 for taxi. (GC): 3-1 Victor. (GC): Control Tower take it 3-1 Victor. (GC): 3-1 Victor taxi intersects one six left (GC): 3-1 Victor (GC): Steady course on 695 hold it to gate and we'll give you a call the airport's closed at this time. (GC): Roger. (P): Northwest 305 ground. (P): Northwest 305 ground. (GC): 305 just a minute (GC) Northwest 305 if you can hear ground can you blink your nav light

12 (P): Ground disregard (GC): 305, are you on? (P): Disregard (GC): Was it 305? (P): That's okay, we're going to talk to the company for just a minute here. (GC): 305 ground (GC): Northwest 305 ground (GC): Northwest 305 ground (P): Go ahead ground (GC): 305 the airport's closed and we have planes holding and we need to get a few off. Would it be alright with you to put an unlighted vehicle on each side of one six left at that taxiway so we can be sure there's no people on that runway or we can have lights on whatever but just to check the runway and there'll be radio control on this frequency. (P): Stand by one (GC): (UNINTEL) down here 305 (P): Yes sir, I will not (GC): Okay, all the passengers are out. There's nobody between us and the rear. It's clean down in this area. (GC): Well the ports closed and they say they won't open it unless they can get a radio vehicle on each side to be sure nobody gets out there heading towards the airplane. (GC): Well yeh, okay let's, but I'm standing here now looking straight across towards our hangar and Alaska's. They're pumping out here right now (UNINTEL).

13 (GC): Ground are you on? (GC): Yes. (P): Did he say it looked like there was somebody trying to sneak across there? (GC): No, the port I guess just doesn't want to open unless we get a radio vehicle out there to be sure no (P): Here's the deal now, will you ask that LEE and that portable radio, if he will agree to control eastbound traffic from there (GC): Okay, any vehicles coming this way? (P): Yes. (P): And on the other side. They've got them stopped on the other side. (GC): Alpha 2 ground (GC) Alpha 2 (GC): Do you want to head that other fuel truck out there and hold him on the taxiway. They need the second fuel truck. (GC): Alright, ten-four. (GC): (UNINTEL) (GC): LEE ground (GC): Yes sir, go ahead (P): Can you control the fuel trucks leaving there and the vehicles leaving there coming toward the terminal, if you can let us know when they're coming, we can run the aircraft if you control the vehicles. (GC): Well I can control anything that's leaving here, the airplane can.

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Okay, good and you can let me know. It looks like a fuel truck is going to start across now towards you. (GC) (UNINTEL) (GC): Okay, you control that and let us know and we'll control everything from this side and we're going to start rolling airplanes. (P): Ground is that other fuel truck on its way? (GC): Affirmative, it looks like it. (P): Do you know what we can use to pump it (GC): Yeh, there's one coming right now; he's about to come across one six left. (P): Alright. (GC): Alpha 2 if that's okay with you tell him to go ahead across and you stay on this side (GC): Stand by (GC): 305 can you tell us how many pounds the first truck put on (GC): Ground this is Alpha 2. This is the third fuel truck and he's on his way. Over. (GC): Okay. Alpha 2 remain where you are. (GC) 305 ground if you comp. we need the pounds of fuel you got off that last truck (GC)(?): We got around 3000 (GC) 3000 Roger (GC): Alpha 2 we're opening up the runway now after that fuel truck crosses, so you're going to stay there and watch for vehicles going westbound? - 174 -

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(GC): That's affirmative, Roger. (GC): We've got 23,000 on board now. (GC): 23,000 on board. Thank-you. (GC): 305 ground on that destination you gave earlier, there's a full flight flying on board if you need it. b6 per FAA b7C per FAA (P): Okay, [REDACTED] I'm trying to figure out what figuration he wants to fly it in, it's going to limit us. (GC): Roger (GC): 305 ground can you affirm the, confirm the two stewardesses are off or are they still on? (P): The stewardesses are off and the fuel truck can come on up and fuel and you better get another one to stand by too. (GC): Okay, Alpha 2 you comp., they're going to need a fourth fuel truck. (GC): Ten-four I comp. I don't have sight of those stews here. (P): The stewardesses are in the automobile. Don't worry about them. Just get over here and start pumping gas. (GC): Well, [REDACTED] can you flag that fuel truck up, I can't get him to move, he doesn't have a radio. b6 per FAA b7C per FAA (P)(?): He's at the fuel truck. (GC): Okay. (GC): Ground this is Alpha 2 did they give you the exact position of those stewardesses, over. (GC): They're in the car, don't worry about the stewardesses. They need the fuel truck. (GC): Ten-four.

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(P): We have two of the three stewardesses in the car. We have one remaining with the individual and he's not going to let her leave the aircraft at this time. (GC): Roger. (P): We do want the fuel truck to come up and if they're (GC): Yeh, there he comes (GC): Alright (GC): Alpha 3 ground, can you work on another fuel truck? (GC): A fourth truck is standing by. (GC): Okay, he only wants an ounce (P): I hope that thing is full. If it isn't, you'd better get another truck out here so we can maintain continuity of filling this aircraft up. He's getting awfully (antcy) (GC): Roger (GC): Okay, gray patrol this is [REDACTED] b6 per FAA b7C per FAA (GC): Go ahead [REDACTED] (GC): Would you get ahold of Operations and have them round up another truck? (GC): We're working on it. (GC): Truck is ready, over. (P): [REDACTED] we had one further request that so far we haven't seen it. We requested meals and we haven't seen; what's the status of that? (GC): The meals are on board. (P): The meals are on board? (GC): Yes sir. There was food brought out. (P): How did it get on board? - 176 -

17 (GC): TINA brought them on board with first class. They're in cardboard boxes. (P): Thank-you. (GC): Alpha 1 ground (GC): Alpha 1 (GC): Are you checking with Company and digging up fuel trucks from somewhere (GC): Affirmative, the fourth truck is standing by ready to move on your request. Over. (GC): Okay. Why don't you put him up there by Alpha 2 so when they need him they can get him across. (GC): You want him out here on the taxiway with Alpha 2 over. (GC): That's correct. Why don't you put him out by Alpha 2 so they can get him over there when they want him. (GC): Affirmative. (GC): Ground this is [REDACTED] again. (GC): [REDACTED] go ahead (GC): Would you give that fuel truck that's sitting by the aircraft here that's eastbound give him a green light when he crosses the runway. (GC): Yeh, we'll get him over here. (GC): The fourth gas truck will be coming out. Over. (GC): Thank-you. (GC): Can you clear that fuel truck across now? (GC): We're coming across. (GC): Okay, there he goes. - 177 -

. 18 (GC): Okay ground, this is [REDACTED] again. Has there ever been a fuel truck on their way up? (GC): Yeh, it's going to be on this side of the runway and when you want him holler. (GC): Very good, thank-you. (GC): 305 this is [REDACTED] (GC): 305 this is [REDACTED] (P): Go ahead [REDACTED] (GC): I just talked to the stews here and if you'll call back there and tell him everything is under control and is fueling then he'll let this other one off too. (P): Whose word is that? Whose idea is that? (GC): This is the two stews that got off that were saying the guy don't really care if she stays on or not, but they suggested to call back and tell him everything is under control and that he'll let that third stew off. (P): That's contrary to what's going on up here [REDACTED] He's. not going to let her come off right now and we're trying to work out a way that we can get her up here somehow before we go. Right now he wants her to sit back there with him during takeoff and not to go forward of the tourist class section. (GC): Okay, I was just wondering, you know. About the fuel, how much fuel do want on board or how much more can you take? (P): Well we got a long way to go and he's getting antsy and that's our problem right now. (GC): Well how much fuel have we got left to put on? What have we got on now? - 178 -

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(P): Well we've only got 26 grand, we're just half done with the refueling. We want to insure that we've got trucks, continuity of trucks coming out here so that we can maintain this fueling. Stand by we're going to talk to the company (UNINTEL).

(GC): Okay, well we've got another truck standing by when this guy empties it.

(P): Right.

(GC): This is Alpha 2 ground control, we have a fourth truck standing by here.

(GC): Alpha 2 why don't you ask him to check how many pounds he's got on it.

(GC): Okay, stand by.

(GC): Ground, Alpha 2 - 15,000 pounds on this fourth truck. Over.

(GC): 15,000?

(GC): Negative - 50,000. Over.

(GC): 50,000 or 5,000?

(GC): That's five zero thousand

(GC): Five Zero Thousand, okay.

(GC): Hello [REDACTED] is it possible to have him come over and two trucks pumping fuel at the same time?

(GC): Hello [REDACTED], I'll say it again; can two pump at the same time?

(GC) (?): Negative.

(GC): You know that aircraft that's landing now, we'd like to clear this other fuel truck over here and bring it over here behind this and we'll have him stand by then.

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(GC): Okay, he can go over now. Alpha 2 you can start the fuel truck over to the airplane. (GC): Okay, Alpha 2. (GC): Do I have to turn off the rotating beacon? (GC): (UNINTEL) shut off the rotating beacon (P):(?) 305 this is [REDACTED] again. (GC): He's on company frequency [REDACTED] He should be off in a minute. (GC): Thank-you. (P): Go ahead [REDACTED] (P): This fueling truck we go on here now it isn't putting on anything, we're not getting anything aboard. You got another one coming up there? (GC): We're going to switch trucks and send that other truck up right away. This guy's going on. (GC): Okay. (GC): 305 ground, that other truck has 50,000 pounds will that do it, he he can pump? (P): Yeh, 50,000 will be enough. (GC): Okay, that other truck has it, so if he can't pump let us know and we'll get another one up there. (P): Okay, thank-you. (GC): Ground, Alpha 2, do you want another truck standing by? (GC): You might, Alpha 2 that other one didn't pump a thing. Why don't you stir up another one? (GC): Okay.

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